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Clear all filters- 80,000 Hours2h 48m
I lead AGI safety at Google DeepMind – here's the view from the inside | Rohin Shah
Rohin Shah argues that catastrophic AI misalignment is not an inevitable default outcome, contending that current training trajectories and prosaic alignment techniques offer a high probability of success against plausible but non-inevitable risks like deceptive alignment. He advocates for nuanced governance through third-party expert audits and internal safety teams rather than rigid public commitments, noting that corporate constraints often drive apathy rather than active opposition to safety measures. Shah concludes that the field should prioritize concrete, implementable solutions and competent personnel over theoretical frameworks, projecting a gradual timeline for intelligence explosions while dismissing the notion that immediate, hyperbolic growth will render safety efforts obsolete.
- 80,000 Hours3h 15m
How we survive the intelligence explosion | Will MacAskill
The event analyzes AI character design, risk-averse economic mechanisms, and international coalitions to mitigate the concentration of power among few leading companies. Key proposals include deploying pro-social AIs for public interaction, establishing AI constitutions, and using non-causal decision theory to coordinate global moral goods without coercion. While opposing broad capability pauses, speakers advocate for slowing the intelligence explosion through compute tracking and legal frameworks that prioritize gradual adaptation over sudden stoppages.
- 80,000 Hours3h 0m
The Abolition of Slavery Was a Fluke | Historian Christopher Brown, Columbia University
Christopher Brown, Rob Wiblin, Keiran Harris, Milo McGuire, Katy Moore
Historian Christopher Brown challenges the deterministic view that the abolition of Atlantic slavery was an inevitable result of economic progress, arguing instead that it required specific contingent events and deliberate human intervention. He details how the success of the movement depended on a unique convergence of the American Revolution, the 1772 Somerset Case, and the strategic moral activism of groups like the Quakers rather than natural moral evolution. Brown concludes that the 1833 Emancipation Act was the product of a fifty-year political struggle and costly compromise, serving as a reminder that significant social change demands organized action rather than reliance on historical inevitability.
- 80,000 Hours1h 59m
Fertility declined 4.5x faster after 2016. Why?
This discussion analyzes the accelerating global decline in fertility driven by expanded non-child options, shifting social norms, and the economic independence of women rather than financial cost alone. Speakers Rob and Louisa contrast these macro trends with personal experiences of intensive parenting pressures, medical underservice for pregnancy, and strategies for balancing career and childcare in an era where AI may soon reduce labor market urgency. The dialogue concludes that modern parental anxiety often stems from historical inaccuracies about attachment and care, urging a shift toward realistic expectations rather than the "intensive parenting" ideal.
- 80,000 Hours1h 44m
The American Public Kinda Hates AI. Why Exactly? | Dr Yam, Pew Research Center
Dr Yam, Eileen Yam, Rob Wiblin
A comprehensive Pew Research Center study of over 5,000 U.S. adults and 1,000 AI experts reveals a stark optimism gap, with experts predicting significant productivity and economic gains while the public increasingly fears job displacement and the erosion of human connection. While experts trust AI with critical decisions and anticipate self-improving systems within five years, the general public maintains deep skepticism, demanding greater control over AI applications in domains ranging from marriage to governance. This divergence is further complicated by demographic disparities, particularly along gender lines, and a shared concern regarding AI-generated misinformation and the lack of effective regulatory oversight by industry or government.
- 80,000 Hours4h 35m
The AGI race isn't a coordination failure | Holden Karnofsky (Anthropic)
Holden Karnofsky assesses the current AI threat landscape as dangerously low on safety readiness, arguing that the industry is driven by competitive racing rather than genuine coordination to prevent catastrophic outcomes. To counter this, he proposes a strategy of exporting practical, low-cost safety measures and fostering a "race to the top" where responsible practices attract talent and capital, rather than relying on unilateral pauses. Karnofsky further outlines specific high-impact interventions such as shifting security focus to model integrity and managing the risks of AI-human attachment, while advising top talent to concentrate their efforts at leading firms to set new industry standards.
- 80,000 Hours2h 16m
Preventing catastrophic lab accidents & bioweapons development | Jaime Yassif (2021)
Senior Fellow Jamie Yassif champions the creation of an independent, UN-linked international organization to implement a layered defense against engineered pathogen risks through improved attribution and governance. Her strategy proposes a new Joint Assessment Mechanism and a Biosafety Funders Compact to close critical gaps in the Biological Weapons Convention while avoiding reliance on single technological solutions. Currently in its socialization phase, the initiative seeks to launch by late 2022 by bridging the divide between technical science and diplomatic policy to secure global cooperation despite geopolitical tensions.
- 80,000 Hours1h 53m
Misinformation during disease outbreaks | Tara Kirk Sell (2020)
Tara Kirkell of the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security critiques the U.S. federal government's inconsistent pandemic response and eroded public trust while advocating for evidence-based strategies like mass contact tracing and risk-matrix reopenings. Drawing on data from the Center's Disease Prediction Project and new funding from the Open Philanthropy Project, she highlights the critical need for improved surveillance, early testing capacity, and technological innovations to prevent future biological catastrophes. The analysis contrasts U.S. failures with successful international models and emphasizes that long-term biosecurity requires shifting from reactive panic cycles to sustained investment in generic countermeasures and disease forecasting infrastructure.
- 80,000 Hours1h 51m
Benjamin Todd on the history of 80,000 Hours (2023)
Following a decade of leadership, Ben Todd is stepping down as CEO of 80,000 Hours while the organization recruits a successor to manage its projected $6 million annual budget and 30% growth target. With the leadership transition creating vacancies for multiple senior roles, the team aims to expand one-on-one advising to 5,000 sessions annually and deepen its research capabilities to overcome past strategic missteps. This evolution builds on the group's established "career capital" framework and high-retention culture as it seeks to become the primary global resource for individuals pursuing high-impact careers.
- 80,000 Hours1h 36m
Parenting insights from Rob and 8 past guests
Luisa Rodriguez, Rob Wiblin, Ezra Klein, Holden Karnofsky, Emily Oster, Russ Roberts, Spencer Greenberg, Elie Hassenfeld, Bryan Caplan, Nita Farahany
Holden Karnofsky discusses his surprising positive experience with early parenthood, noting stable sleep and increased well-being despite prevailing societal narratives of decline. The conversation integrates expert advice from figures like Emily Oster and Ezra Klein regarding the trade-offs between career demands and childcare, emphasizing that foundational stability outweighs specific parenting choices. Key themes include the methodological flaws in measuring parental regret, the biological realities of gamete quality, and practical strategies for balancing work, identity shifts, and child safety.
- 80,000 Hours2h 12m
Forecasting & the drivers of AI progress | Danny Hernandez (2020)
Danny Hernandez, Rob Wiblin, Arden Kaler
OpenAI's Foresight team and associated experts analyzed the exponential 10x annual growth in AI compute since 2012 alongside multiplicative algorithmic efficiency gains to project how hardware constraints and research trends will shape future capabilities. The discussion emphasized that organizational success depends on fostering a culture of numerical forecasting and calibration training to reduce decision-making bias and resource misallocation. Furthermore, the event outlined viable non-traditional pathways for researchers to enter the field through targeted mentorship, while highlighting the critical need for government-supported compute access and policy expertise to prevent the fragmentation of the global AI ecosystem.
- 80,000 Hours3h 41m
Big-picture historical trends in human values, war, & more | Ian Morris (2022)
Historian Ian Morris analyzes ten thousand years of human development by applying his Social Development Index to demonstrate how geography, energy capture, and war have driven a cyclic pattern of Western dominance and Eastern resurgence. His long-term forecasting projects a critical convergence point by 2103, warning that current trends will either trigger a technological Singularity or a civilizational Nightfall within the next century. To navigate these existential risks, Morris advocates for a policy of "forensic skepticism" that empowers future generations with resources and freedom rather than attempting to impose today's transient moral values.
- 80,000 Hours2h 15m
Is lazy parenting OK? | Bryan Caplan (2022)
Philosopher and author Brian Kaplan discusses his upcoming graphic novel on housing deregulation and presents a comprehensive argument that voter behavior is driven by group identity rather than material self-interest. He challenges conventional economic wisdom by asserting that parental influence on adult outcomes is largely negligible due to genetics, while immigration provides significant net benefits through cultural assimilation and labor market efficiency. Furthermore, Kaplan critiques modern effective altruism for falling prey to social desirability bias and defends a "weak deontological" framework that prioritizes individual autonomy against state paternalism.
- 80,000 Hours2h 55m
How to improve global health and wellbeing in clear, direct ways | Alexander Berger
Open Philanthropy co-CEO Alexander Berger outlines a strategic portfolio realignment that divides the organization's resources roughly evenly between "Global Health and Well-Being" and "Long-Termism" to address both immediate existential threats and philosophical uncertainties. This approach prioritizes scalable, evidence-backed interventions such as insecticide-treated bed nets and South Asian air quality initiatives while explicitly avoiding abstract, unproven causes that lack measurable feedback loops. By adopting a "cluster thinking" methodology and diversifying across moral frameworks, the organization aims to hedge against long-term prediction errors while simultaneously advocating for policy changes like compensated kidney donation to maximize current well-being.
- 80,000 Hours2h 51m
Having a successful career with depression, anxiety and imposter syndrome | 80,000 Hours
Keiran Harris, Rob Wiblin, Howie Lempel
Strategy Advisor Howie Lempel of 80,000 Hours shares a candid interview detailing his decades-long struggle with severe depression, anxiety, imposter syndrome, and ADHD. The conversation critiques the overreliance on "grit" and lifestyle fixes, arguing instead for prioritizing professional medication and therapy while outlining specific coping strategies like emergency communication plans and financial runways. Following a period of unemployment and recovery supported by the effective altruism community, Lempel was promoted to Chief of Staff and now advocates for systemic changes to make mental health care more accessible and destigmatized.