Interview
#46 - Prof Hilary Greaves on moral cluelessness & tackling crucial questions in academia
Global Priorities Institute (GPI) Overview & Recruitment
- Mission: Conducts and promotes world-class foundational research on how to most effectively do good, aiming to set global priorities using evidence and reason.
- Head of Research Operations:
- Reports directly to Hilary Graves (Director).
- Responsible for strategy, communications, finance, and fundraising.
- Contract: 4-year term.
- Salary: £40,000 – £49,000 per year.
- Location: Remote (open to global applicants).
- Application Deadline: 19 November.
- Summer Research Visitor Program (Summer 2019):
- Target audience: Economists working on PhDs or early in their careers.
- Application Deadline: 30 November.
- Upcoming Fellowships: Postdoctoral and senior fellowships for philosophers and economists launching next September.
- General Research Inquiries: Open to researchers from master's students to emeritus professors; applications accepted via email (contact@globalprioritiesinstitute.org).
Hilary Graves' Research Background & Shift
- Previous Focus: Philosophy of physics, specifically the interpretation of quantum mechanics and the "many-worlds" theory.
- Researched probability within many-worlds theory, arguing probability concerns are resolved by decision theory weights rather than objective frequencies.
- Current Focus: Moral philosophy, effective altruism (EA), and global priorities.
- Motivation for Shift: Desire to address fundamental questions of practical action and human principles rather than abstract technicalities; felt academic career incentives rewarded incremental output over meaningful impact.
- Career Risk: Switching fields entails a "fallow period" of 2–3 years where the scholar has few publications, acting as a deterrent in a tenure-track environment.
- Transferable Skills: Background in physics provided strong mathematical and decision-theoretic grounding; formal epistemology training facilitated work on Bayesian belief formation.
Current Research Projects at GPI
- Moral Uncertainty: Exploring the "parliamentary model" as an alternative to standard expected value approaches for making decisions under conflicting normative views.
- Long-Termism & Extinction Risk:
- Rigorously formalizing the argument that long-run impact necessitates prioritizing extinction risk mitigation over near-term causes.
- Investigating the "long-termism paradigm" where the vast majority of value lies in the far future.
- Methodology in Cost-Benefit Analysis: Resolving debates between economists (summing monetary values) and philosophers (weighting by value to the person) in public policy recommendations.
Key Philosophical Topics & Findings
- Discounting Future Welfare:
- Moral philosophers largely agree on a zero discount rate for future welfare; some economically-minded individuals still debate this.
- Excessive Sacrifice Concern: Debate exists on whether a zero discount rate implies individuals must sacrifice all current consumption for the future; Graves argues constraints on moral demands can be modeled without altering the value function itself.
- Population Ethics:
- The Problem: Comparing states of affairs with different population sizes leads to "impossibility theorems" where no theory satisfies all intuitive desiderata.
- Total Utilitarianism: Maximizes total welfare; committed to the "Repugnant Conclusion" (a world with many barely worth-living lives is better than one with few high-quality lives).
- Average Utilitarianism: Maximizes average welfare; committed to "population axiology" paradoxes where adding people with negative welfare can increase average if the population size is manipulated correctly.
- Person-Affecting Views: Struggle with the "non-identity problem" (future people's identities depend on current actions), often leading to inconsistency or incomparability between worlds.
- Graves' Stance: Finds the Repugnant Conclusion less repugnant than the alternatives; finds "saturating counterpart relations" (Chris Meacham) as the most promising recent person-affecting work, though still imperfect.
- Moral Cluelessness:
- The Issue: Actions have vast, unpredictable long-term effects that dominate expected value calculations, yet we cannot assign sensible credences to them.
- Chaotic Effects vs. Systematic Effects: Gravitates toward the view that chaotic, identity-altering effects (e.g., throwing a tennis ball) cancel out in expectation, but systematic, knock-on effects (e.g., funding bed nets) do not cancel out.
- Implication for Charity Evaluation: Standard evaluations (e.g., GiveWell) measure near-term effects; if long-term effects dominate and do not cancel, the sign of the intervention's value could flip, making near-term proxies potentially misleading for cross-cause comparisons.
- Conclusion: Rational donors must rely on "judgment calls" regarding the likely sign of long-term effects rather than ignoring them or assuming they cancel.
- Risk Aversion:
- Argues that risk aversion regarding the total value in the universe supports long-termism (specifically extinction risk mitigation) because it avoids the worst outcome (total loss of future value).
- Contrasts with the intuition of risk aversion regarding personal impact variance, which often favors near-term, measurable interventions like saving lives now.
Decision Theory & Epistemology
- Newcomb's Problem: Graves identifies as a Causal Decision Theorist but acknowledges the rationality of pre-committing to Evidential Decision Theory in specific predictive contexts.
- Epistemic Decision Theory:
- Searched for decision theories analogous to practical domains (causal vs. evidential) but found none map well to intuitive notions of epistemic rationality (e.g., updating beliefs).
- Concluded that the intuitive notion of epistemic rationality may not be consequentialist in the standard sense.
- Parliamentary Model for Moral Uncertainty:
- Attempts to formalize moral theories as "delegates" in a bargaining game to determine action under uncertainty.
- Current formalization (using Nash bargaining) struggles to produce robust Pareto improvements compared to expected moral value maximization, though it handles structurally awkward theories better.
Academic Culture & Career Advice
- Institutional Challenges:
- Economics vs. Philosophy: Economics is more cutthroat regarding publication pressure; philosophy is more receptive to EA themes among younger scholars.
- Interdisciplinary Work: Often less prestigious in traditional departments due to lack of understanding by peers; requires high intrinsic motivation.
- GPI Model: Adopts a collaborative "team" approach where the goal is producing high-quality research rather than individual prestige, contrasting with the "lone scholar" model.
- Career Strategy:
- Tenure-Track: Advise prioritizing career prestige and high-quality publications during the PhD/postdoc if tenure is the goal; keep EA topics as "side projects" if they are too controversial for current department norms.
- Non-Academic Path: Strong case for disregarding academic incentives if the long-term goal is not tenure; direct engagement with EA orgs or industry is viable.
- Signal of Success: Publishing in top journals or receiving strong mentor feedback during a PhD are reliable indicators of research capability.
- Psychological Fit: Research requires a timescale of years for publication; those seeking quick project turnover may find academia demoralizing.
- Funding Strategy:
- GPI requires significant reserves to hire academic economists due to Oxford's requirement of pre-funded contracts.
- Scholarships are designed to offset funding asymmetries between UK (often 2-3 years) and US (5 years) PhD programs to retain top talent in Oxford.
Future Vision
- 10–30 Year Goal:
- Significantly increased academic attention on EA-relevant questions (e.g., cause prioritization, population ethics).
- Integration of these topics into undergraduate and graduate syllabi.
- Higher proportion of global brainpower focused on practically important research questions.
- Influence Pathways:
- Direct: Consulting with governments and policy bodies.
- Indirect: Shaping the next generation of world leaders through university education.