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Asset Management Outlook

Market Outlook and Asset Growth

  • Global Assets Under Management (AUM) are projected to reach $145 trillion by 2025, an increase from $85 trillion, according to a late-year PwC study.
  • Growth drivers include retail investing, Exchange Traded Funds (ETFs), and alternative assets like real estate.
  • Passive management is expected to outpace active management growth, though active management will still expand.
  • Two Sigma CEO David Heinke estimates current passive management represents ~25% of global assets and foresees it growing, but not reaching the 80% threshold.

Active vs. Passive and Industry Bifurcation

  • The active management sector is experiencing a bifurcation between "true alpha" (rare) and "risk premium collection."
  • Two Sigma predicts a shift in the definition of alpha, beta, and passive investing as asset allocators gain more transparency and control.
  • David Hunt (PGIM) notes a convergence of public and private securities, with alternative asset valuations (P/E ~11) now matching long-only public securities.
  • Former State Street CEO Ron O'Hanley predicts a continued shift from traditional active mutual funds to ETFs used as building blocks for managed portfolios.
  • Small, long-only public securities firms face significant challenges, while large firms are diversifying across all asset classes.
  • MetLife CEO Steve Goulart notes that consolidation will continue, driven by the need for capital to invest in technology, regulation, and workforce needs.

Strategic Adaptations and Investment Trends

  • Two Sigma operates with a 2/3 research/technology and 1/3 finance staff ratio, founded on the premise that data and technology would dominate investment management.
  • PGIM is blending alternatives and private investments to create products suitable for meeting long-term liabilities.
  • MetLife directs over 50% of its new money investments into private or illiquid assets (commercial mortgages, private infrastructure debt, real estate equity) due to compressed yields in public markets.
  • Logan Circle Partners ($38 billion AUM) was acquired by MetLife to expand its specialty fixed income capabilities.
  • The Ontario Teachers' Pension Plan (OTPP) utilizes "active management" by directly acquiring companies and infrastructure platforms (e.g., Cadillac Fairview) to drive operational EBITDA growth.
  • OTPP reports a 1.5–2% annual outperformance against benchmarks over 27 years through direct ownership and platform building.
  • OTPP maintains a defined benefit plan surplus of $10–15 billion with a real discount rate of 2.75%.

ESG and Responsible Investing

  • OTPP views ESG integration as critical to fiduciary duty, balancing the need for returns with environmental, social, and governance risks.
  • The "social" pillar of ESG is identified as the most difficult to navigate due to intense pressure from captive stakeholder groups (e.g., teachers demanding exclusion of weapons manufacturers).
  • Ron O'Hanley (State Street) frames the evolution of ESG from "thou shalt not" (exclusionary) to "thou shall" (positive) to integrating ESG into the formal investment risk framework.
  • State Street emphasizes that effective governance requires strong, independent boards, noting conclusive evidence that gender parity on boards correlates with better long-term performance.
  • State Street commits to voting against board candidates who fail to move toward gender parity, acknowledging that passive portfolios cannot simply divest from specific companies like the S&P 500.
  • MetLife's Steve Goulart warns against the "slippery slope" of ESG, advocating for a focus on risk factors that impact investment viability over a 10–30 year horizon.
  • The U.S. Department of Labor recently issued guidance suggesting 401(k)s need not necessarily be ESG-focused due to uncertain returns, a point of contention regarding evidence and definitions.

Market Environment and Liquidity Risks

  • 2017 market quietness is described as abnormal; 2018 volatility is considered more normal for long-term investors.
  • David Hunt argues that volatility is not risk; the primary risk is deploying capital at richly priced levels, making pullbacks potentially beneficial.
  • PGIM warns of potential liquidity shocks in illiquid OTC products and fixed income, exacerbated by post-financial crisis regulations reducing bank balance sheets.
  • Half the number of publicly traded companies in the U.S. exist compared to 15 years ago, with IPOs at near-record lows and private equity raising record capital.
  • This "de-democratization" of markets limits individual investor access to high-growth technology firms that formerly went public.
  • Regulatory burdens (e.g., Sarbanes-Oxley) and quarterly earnings pressure are driving more companies to stay private longer or go private via private equity.
  • Private credit has boomed, filling a void left by reduced bank lending, effectively pushing systemic risk into the shadow banking system.

Technology and Artificial Intelligence

  • Two Sigma has productized its internal optimization and execution technology as a service, now installed with 60 institutions in the U.S. and Europe.
  • Two Sigma emphasizes a "scientific mindset" over simple technology investment, warning that AI expectations are currently "way ahead" of actual delivery capabilities.
  • David Hunt and others describe the current state as "man and machine," where technology assists human decision-making rather than replacing it.
  • Two Sigma warns against "overfitting" and spurious correlations in machine learning, advocating for rigorous scientific research to eliminate human bias.
  • State Street's digitization effort is running ahead of schedule, targeting $550 million in cost savings by 2020.
  • Blockchain technology is being explored to reduce settlement times for illiquid assets (e.g., bank loans) to match the speed of liquid ETFs.
  • Steve Goulart describes AI as "overhyped" in broad terms, noting its success is currently limited to narrow fields like machine vision and speech recognition.

Talent and Workforce Challenges

  • Demographic shifts in G7 countries (more people over 60 than under 20) pose a long-term risk to talent attraction in the asset management industry.
  • Competition for top data scientists and engineers is intense, with tech giants (Google, Apple, Netflix) capturing the majority of graduating MIT classes.
  • U.S. public plans struggle more than Canadian counterparts in attracting and retaining high-quality investment staff and technology talent.
  • OTPP attributes its success to a mission-driven culture ("helping people realize hopes and dreams") and a broader, diverse talent pipeline including international locations.
  • The industry's value proposition is shifting from traditional trading roles to data science and research, requiring a new cultural DNA of innovation.
  • State Street utilizes global talent pools (China, Poland, India) to mitigate domestic immigration and labor constraints.