Panel, Conference Presentation
Balance Sheet: The US Government Budget and National Debt | Global Conference 2025
Milken InstituteJosh Barro, Maya MacGuineas, Steven T. Mnuchin, Paul Ryan, Alan Schwartz, Phillip Swagel, David Malani
Current Fiscal Trajectory and Risk Assessment
- Deficit Projections: The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) currently projects budget deficits at approximately 6% of GDP for the current year, a figure expected to persist or rise to roughly 6% over the next decade under baseline assumptions.
- Immediate Upward Pressure: Recent fiscal actions and external factors could push deficits to 8% of GDP in the near term, driven by the extension of the 2017 tax cuts, potential volatility reducing GDP growth, and headcount reductions at the IRS.
- Long-Term Borrowing: Without intervention, the U.S. is projected to borrow an additional $22 trillion over the coming decade.
- Interest Costs: Interest payments on the national debt are the single fastest-growing category in the federal budget and are currently crowding out other spending priorities like defense and infrastructure.
- Non-Crisis Deficits: Current deficits are being recorded in a non-emergency economic environment, marking the highest level of borrowing outside of a recession since World War II.
- Debt-to-GDP Ratio: Debt as a share of GDP is projected to hit record highs within four years, exceeding 125%.
Structural Vulnerabilities in Entitlement Programs
- Social Security Insolvency: The Social Security trust fund is projected to be exhausted by 2033, at which point the program would become a cash system unable to pay full benefits, resulting in an automatic ~25% reduction in payments.
- Medicare Insolvency: Medicare faces a similar insolvency timeline, approximately 10 years away.
- Mandatory Spending Dominance: Mandatory spending (Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid) comprises roughly 75% of the federal budget and drives the long-term debt trajectory.
- Political Constraints: Both major parties currently lack the political appetite for deep entitlement reform, with the administration explicitly ruling out cuts to Social Security or Medicare benefits for current recipients.
- Demographic Shifts: The ratio of working-age adults (18–64) to those over 65 is projected to decline from 3.5:1 to roughly 2.75:1, reducing the tax base relative to the beneficiary population.
Financial Market Dynamics and the Dollar
- Erosion of Dollar Hegemony: Foreign central banks are increasingly diversifying reserves away from the U.S. dollar and into gold, signaling a long-term erosion of confidence in the dollar as the sole safe asset.
- Alternative Payment Systems: Growing use of non-SWIFT payment systems by China and other nations (via bilateral and multilateral agreements) represents a strategic move to reduce reliance on the U.S. financial infrastructure.
- Interest Rate Environment: Unlike historical crises, current deficits are occurring alongside rising real interest rates rather than falling ones, removing the traditional "flight to quality" benefit that previously lowered borrowing costs.
- Treasury Auction Risks: Panelists warn of the potential for future Treasury auction failures, which would force the Federal Reserve to intervene or trigger a market crisis, though the Fed technically cannot directly buy failed auctions.
- Cost of Reserve Currency Status: While the dollar remains the undisputed reserve currency with no viable alternative, the cost of maintaining this status (high borrowing costs) is becoming an economic drag.
Policy Proposals and Revenue Considerations
- Sovereign Wealth Fund Concepts: Former Treasury Secretary Mnuchin suggests a potential role for a U.S. sovereign wealth fund, potentially linked to converting defined-benefit entitlements into defined-contribution models.
- Tax Reform Options: Panelists discussed broadening the tax base rather than raising corporate rates, with proposals including:
- Implementing a Value Added Tax (VAT) or consumption tax (supported by Alan Schwartz, opposed by Maya McGinnis).
- Eliminating tax expenditures (currently $20 trillion over a decade) to fund targeted benefits.
- Transitioning toward an "X-tax" or cash-flow tax to exempt savings and investment.
- Growth Assumptions: Proponents of tax cuts argue for a path to 3% real GDP growth, a target Steven Mnuchin views as achievable through deregulation and trade policy, though CBO and others view 2% as the more realistic long-run baseline.
- Pass-Through Entities: The discussion highlighted the complexity of the 1999 pass-through deduction (Section 199A) and the challenge of maintaining neutrality between C-Corps and pass-through entities (LLCs, S-Corps) without harming the majority of American businesses.
Political Feasibility and Institutional Solutions
- Legislative Stagnation: The current Congress lacks the votes to pass significant deficit-reducing measures; a hypothetical $6.4 trillion cut passed in 2013 is estimated to require an $11.6 trillion cut under current baselines, far exceeding current congressional capacity.
- IRS Headcount Reductions: The administration is cutting ~30,000 IRS employees, a move panelists argue is inefficient compared to investing in modernization and AI; the current reduction is described as a "gimmick" for budget scoring rather than a genuine efficiency strategy.
- Forcing Mechanisms: The consensus suggests a fiscal crisis (e.g., a bond market failure) or a "pseudo-crisis" leadership moment (similar to the 1992 Ross Perot campaign) is likely required to break political gridlock.
- Fiscal Commission Recommendation: Multiple panelists (McGinnis, Schwartz, Swagel) advocated for a "Fiscal Commission with Teeth"—a bipartisan body authorized to make recommendations that Congress must vote on without amendment or filibuster, similar to the 1983 Greenspan Commission on Social Security.
- Stablecoin Legislation: Paul Ryan noted pending legislation to stabilize the digital dollar, which he argues could strengthen the dollar's global reserve status through digitization.
Forward-Looking Statements and Predictions
- CBO Update: The CBO plans to release a new budget update in the summer incorporating recent economic volatility and policy changes.
- Economic Growth Outlook: The CBO projects 1.3% real growth over the next 30 years driven by demographics, though this could be mitigated by increased immigration or productivity gains from AI and infrastructure investment.
- Political Timeline: There is a skepticism that the current administration will prioritize long-term fiscal stability during its current term, with the expectation that serious entitlement reform will likely be deferred until a future term or triggered by a crisis.
- Interest Rate Trajectory: Without fiscal discipline, interest expense is projected to accelerate, potentially creating a "debt spiral" that crowds out all other government functions.
- Immigration as Growth Driver: CBO modeling indicates that increasing the working-age population through immigration could significantly boost long-term growth, though the specific impact depends on the education levels of incoming immigrants.