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Busta Rhymes Finally Opens Up About His Grief, Depression & Recovery!

Early Context and Community Foundation

  • Busta Rhymes (born Trevor Smith) was raised in East Flatbush, Brooklyn, within a "village" parenting model where neighbors had collective authority to discipline children.
  • Discipline was enforced by both parents and the community; misbehavior could result in two "beatings" (one by a neighbor, one by the mother) for a single infraction.
  • This era of street culture demanded integrity and respect; even individuals involved in criminal activity ("goons") maintained manners and respect for elders.
  • Hip-hop served as a life-saving alternative to the prevalent drug dealing, shootings, and robberies in his neighborhood.
  • Busta Rhymes' parents, a strict English father and a Nigerian mother, instilled high expectations, with the mother emphasizing education and the father enforcing hard work.
  • The separation of his parents when he was 11 years old created significant psychological turmoil, leading to increased anger, disrespect, and conflict at school.
  • Conflict intensified between Busta and his father due to a personality clash; his father viewed music as a "waste of time" compared to his father's career as a licensed electrical contractor.
  • Busta was forced to work for his father starting around age 10, performing manual labor in buildings with pests, which fueled his resentment and desire to escape.
  • The family spent summers in the UK (Morecambe, Preston, Blackpool), where Busta integrated into the local breakdancing scene and began performing in clubs for small amounts of money.
  • At age 12, Busta was charged with selling crack cocaine twice; his mother intervened and moved him to Long Island to remove him from that environment.
  • On Long Island, Busta met the "Leaders of the New School" members, including Charlie Brown and Dinko, transitioning from a solo breakdancer to an MC.
  • A specific rivalry with Charlie Brown in a junior high school cypher served as the catalyst for Busta's evolution into an MC; he wrote rhymes to retaliate against a diss, adopting the aggressive flow of LL Cool J.
  • He adopted the stage name "Busta Rhymes" after discarding previous names like "Lord Tashim" and "Chill Old Ski" to align with the three-part naming convention of his idols.
  • Busta's performance style was uniquely influenced by Jamaican Dancehall "clashes," prioritizing high-energy showmanship, movement, and vocal variety over the static stage presence common in early hip-hop.
  • He was signed to a record deal at age 17, overcoming significant early setbacks including being booed off stage at the Apollo Theater in 1992.
  • Busta's father eventually attended the Apollo show but remained unsupportive, reinforcing the family's pressure for Busta to pursue a traditional trade.

Psychology of Success and Work-Life Balance

  • Busta identifies "addiction" to the reaction of the crowd as the primary driver of his 33-year career consistency and peak performance.
  • He views success as rooted in identifying one's innate gift, loving it to a point of "maniacal" obsession, and pursuing it with uncompromising selfishness.
  • Busta advises that to succeed, one must be willing to be "selfish" and "maniacal," accepting that great rewards require great sacrifice and risk.
  • He admits to missing key family milestones (graduations, learning to ride bikes) to secure the financial stability required to support four mothers and six children.
  • He acknowledges guilt over his absence but frames his intense work ethic as a form of survival necessitated by child support obligations and a lack of external support systems.
  • Busta emphasizes that identifying with one's "gift" is a godly purpose, allowing one to live a legacy that transcends mortality and impacts millions.
  • He advises that work should be a source of spiritual fulfillment and peace of mind, creating a mental sanctuary away from relationship conflicts and distractions.
  • Busta warns against using work as a psychological escape from family issues, noting that the "sacrifice" of time must be weighed against the irreplaceable nature of family moments.

Crisis, Health, and Redemption

  • The death of his manager and close friend Chris Lighty in 2012 marked a pivotal low point, causing Busta to halt his recording career for nine years due to grief and a lack of trust in a new support system.
  • Two years later, in 2014, Busta lost his father, compounding his trauma; he later reconciled with him but felt the pain of lost time.
  • The dual losses led to severe unhealthy coping mechanisms, including overworking, excessive drinking, smoking, and marijuana use.
  • Busta's weight surged to 340 pounds, resulting in sleep apnea and a condition where he nearly drowned in his own sleep due to an inability to wake himself.
  • His son confronted him, expressing fear of losing him and pleading with him to stop his destructive behaviors, which served as the turning point for Busta's recovery.
  • Medical intervention at UCLA required emergency surgery to clear 90% of his blocked breathing passages; doctors warned of imminent death if he left the hospital without treatment.
  • Busta entered a 30-day rehabilitation retreat in Jacksonville, Florida, with bodybuilder Mr. Olympia Dexter Jackson to lose weight and regain physical health.
  • During the retreat, Busta lived in a secluded mansion with a personal chef, trainer, and recording engineer, losing 27 pounds in 30 days while focusing on physical discipline.
  • He credits the physical transformation with restoring his mental clarity and spirit, allowing him to regain the respect and trust of his children.

Current Outlook and Mentorship

  • Busta released a new album, Blockbuster, in 2024, co-produced by Pharrell Williams and others.
  • A core objective of the Blockbuster album was to feature young, emerging artists alongside established veterans, rejecting the narrative that older artists disrespect new talent.
  • Busta argues that the industry must share the "flame" rather than pass the torch, fostering a symbiotic relationship where elders mentor youth and youth inspire veterans.
  • He cites his own upbringing as a beneficiary of guidance from elders like Chuck D, Big Daddy Kane, and De La Soul as the model for his current mentorship approach.
  • Busta expresses a commitment to supporting the next generation by providing them with business guidance and creative sharpening, not just musical collaboration.
  • He views the convergence of past legends and new talent as the destiny that will define the future of hip-hop.
  • Busta notes that his 33-year career remains sustainable because he maintains an "addiction" to the creative process and the connection with his audience.
  • He describes his current state as one of "delusional faith," where belief in one's vision precedes its realization by the public.
  • Busta emphasizes that the feeling of purpose derived from music is superior to financial gain, noting that even a 200-million-dollar CEO can feel unfulfilled without this connection.
  • He has never participated in an in-depth interview of this length or duration in Europe or the US prior to this conversation with Steven Bartlett.