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Can Stocks Rally With a Hawkish Fed?

Federal Reserve and Interest Rate Outlook

  • Market expectations for rate cuts have shifted to pricing in a potential cycle of four hikes.
  • The panel's median view suggests the hiking cycle will conclude at two to three total increases this year.
  • The prevailing "house view" forecasts another rate hike in October followed by a prolonged pause.
  • Oil prices exceeding $100 per barrel are identified as the primary determinant for the future inflation outlook and potential Fed pivot.
  • If inflation does not retreat toward the 2% target, the risk skew leans toward fewer than the currently priced four hikes.
  • Market pricing for the ECB and Japan has similarly increased to nearly four cumulative hikes in the new tightening round.
  • Forward-looking statements indicate a potential path to an "all-assets" rally if oil prices decline and midterms pass without further conflict.

Fixed Income and Yield Curve Dynamics

  • Recent bond market movements have been primarily driven by front-end monetary policy repricing rather than yield curve shape shifts.
  • The 10-year note yield is currently at 5%, with 30-year real yields exceeding 3%.
  • Panelists agree that the fixed income market currently prices in a "higher yield world" with significant risk premiums.
  • Structural drivers for elevated real yields include AI-driven capital competition, robust corporate finance needs, and persistent fiscal deficits.
  • A meaningful repricing lower in yields is contingent on a catalyst, most likely a sustained fall in oil prices.
  • Without a growth downside surprise or AI investment boom moderation, financing pressures may keep yields elevated or push them higher over the next six to 12 months.

Equity Markets and Risk Assets

  • Stock markets have demonstrated resilience against significant headwinds, including oil shocks, rising yields, and AI volatility, remaining largely range-bound.
  • Earnings remain a key support for the market despite volatility in AI-related headlines and safety concerns.
  • The setup for risky assets is currently considered "cleaner" due to the market absorbing hawkish Fed pricing, though short-term uncertainty remains high.
  • Dominic recommends using call options to capitalize on the current setup while protecting downside risk.
  • Josh views the market's ability to withstand current macroeconomic stress as indicative of an underlying large-scale CapEx cycle and strong real growth.
  • Cyclical growth pricing measures remain solid, with no significant gap between growth concerns and market valuation.

Macroeconomic Growth and Labor Trends

  • The consensus forecast projects U.S. GDP growth to continue at approximately 2% for the year.
  • Unemployment rates have trended lower, contrasting with initial yearly expectations of labor market weakness.
  • Composite ISM data indicates a slow but steady pickup in economic activity despite recent energy price shocks.
  • Financial conditions have tightened due to higher rates and energy costs but have not yet reached levels that threaten the growth outlook.
  • The Federal Reserve's September Summary of Economic Projections (SEP) showed no risks to growth rated as downside, a rare signal of confidence.
  • Long-term growth durability is supported by the U.S. economy's ability to withstand higher energy prices and tighter monetary conditions.

Currency and Strategic Themes

  • The U.S. dollar is expected to perform well given the combination of a strong economy, hawkish Fed stance, and the U.S. leadership in the AI narrative.
  • A decline in oil prices is viewed as the necessary catalyst to trigger a broad rally across all asset classes into year-end.
  • High real yields in the very long end (>3%) are identified as attractive medium-to-long-term entry points for fixed income.
  • Panelists anticipate the market distribution regarding tightening moves will shift toward the "less worry" side as inflation relief materializes.