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"Cursor is Dead" is Total BS: Here is Why | Miles Clements

Investment Framework & Philosophy

  • Excel emphasizes a "multi-stage, multi-strategy" approach, avoiding the extremes of only chasing massive late-stage momentum or sitting on the sidelines due to valuation concerns.
  • The firm's core philosophy, attributed to co-founder Arthur Patterson, is to "focus on hitting singles and doubles and let the home runs take care of themselves," avoiding the over-swinging that leads to failures in early-stage bets.
  • Myles Clements defines investing as an art and a science: the science lies in proper valuation, while the art lies in knowing when to break the rules.
  • Excel believes that missing a 100% win rate on deal sourcing and closing is acceptable, estimating a healthy win rate around 80% to remain competitive in difficult negotiations.
  • The firm conducts rigorous, "global offsite" partnership meetings to audit missed deals and failures, treating them as the most critical internal conversations for future course correction.
  • Excel explicitly rejects the notion of being a "coverage game" where every deal must be won, instead focusing on high-conviction bets where they can act as the lead investor of record.
  • The firm prioritizes "non-consensus" investments in smaller, bootstrap companies (e.g., Laravel) alongside consensus plays in breakout leaders to diversify portfolio risk.

AI Market Analysis: Value & Durability

  • Clements evaluates AI companies using a framework of "time to value" versus "durability of value," distinguishing between transient tools and enduring platforms.
  • High Time to Value / High Durability: Legal and accounting AI (e.g., Basis) require long deployment cycles but offer transformational value once adopted due to high switching costs for professionals.
  • Low Time to Value / Low Durability: Early "vibe coding" apps offer immediate utility (e.g., weekend projects) but lack long-term retention, leading to rapid market exit.
  • Coding AI (The Sweet Spot): The coding vertical (Cursor, Cloud Code) wins because it combines short time-to-value (productivity gains in hours) with high durability (compounding team usage and data flywheels).
  • Cloud Code's recent success is attributed to the underlying model improvements (Opus 4.5/4.6) and market expansion rather than stealing market share from Cursor, bringing new cohorts of non-developers into software creation.
  • The market is expanding consumption, with significant ARR growth driven by usage intensity (tokens consumed) rather than just new seat additions.

Cursor: Market Position & Strategic Decisions

  • Cursor achieved $2 billion in Annual Recurring Revenue (ARR), having grown from approximately $100 million in ARR at the time of Excel's initial investment to a $27 billion valuation.
  • Despite public sentiment suggesting Cursor's decline (e.g., "Cursor is dead" memes, user complaints about pricing), internal metrics show 90% of users are daily active on the agent product, which grew 15x last year.
  • Cloud-based agents now account for 35% of merged PRs in Cursor, indicating a successful shift away from traditional IDE-based workflows.
  • Cursor employs a multi-model strategy, acknowledging that 50% of developers switch model families daily, allowing Cursor to act as an "index of AI innovation" without being locked into a single provider.
  • Cursor is building specialized coding models for enterprise tasks rather than general-purpose models, aiming to differentiate through professional utility rather than breadth.
  • Excel invested in Cursor at a pre-money valuation of roughly $9.5 million, a price point that seemed high at the time but was justified by the company's rapid scaling to $2 billion ARR.
  • The firm does not rely on rigid revenue budgets or quarterly earnings pressure, viewing financial outputs as a reflection of product-market fit rather than a primary investment constraint.

Missed Deals & Regrets

  • Rippling: Excel was not an investor in Rippling; reasons included a reputational perception of the founder Parker Conrad at the time, a desire to stick to specific ownership thresholds, and the high valuation required to enter the round.
  • 11 Labs: Excel regrets missing 11 Labs, citing insufficient time spent with the founder and acknowledging it as a "very special" company essential to the modern AI stack.
  • Abridge: The firm regrets missing the opportunity to invest in Abridge due to a failure to secure a meeting with the founder, Shiv.
  • Service Titan: Excel missed Service Titan due to rigid valuation rules (capping at 6-8x forward revenue for vertical SaaS), which prevented them from capitalizing on a company that eventually became a $9 billion entity.
  • Anthropic & OpenAI: Excel participated in Anthropic rounds (including a $180 million round) but is not an investor in OpenAI.
  • Miro & Canva: While respecting these companies' financial profiles, Excel held their positions at high valuations ($17B for Miro) and did not sell secondary shares, aligning with the founder's strategic vision despite market pressure to take chips off the table.
  • CrowdStrike: Excel led rounds and held through the IPO, refusing to sell despite opportunities to diversify, a decision credited with capturing the company's eventual $100 billion market cap.

Market Dynamics & Future Outlook

  • The definition of "Series A" has evolved; Excel notes multiple subcategories exist today, requiring distinct strategies for different growth stages and valuations.
  • To achieve fund returns, firms must participate in "mega outcomes" ($50B-$100B+), as traditional mid-market outcomes are insufficient for late-stage growth fund size requirements.
  • Clements believes the era of "triple, triple, double, double" growth is not dead but requires the right valuation metrics and market positioning to be viable.
  • The "SaaS apocalypse" is viewed as an over-rotation where mediocre growth rates (18-20%) were previously hyper-valued, rather than a fundamental collapse of the sector.
  • Public markets are currently viewed as a distinct, "casino-like" asset class that VC firms should generally avoid, preferring to stay within their expertise of early-stage technology investing.
  • Clements admits he was wrong a year ago in believing all generational AI bets were made; he now views the innovation flywheel as just beginning with significant upside remaining.
  • Excel is optimistic about the younger team's future impact, expressing pride in partners like Christine Esserman, Ben Quazo, and Josh over the next decade.

Competitive Landscape & Ecosystem

  • Remote vs. Rippling: Excel is invested in Remote but not Rippling, viewing them as separate business models despite similar HR tech adjacencies.
  • Deel: Excel is an investor in Deel, distinguishing its product vision and strategy from competitors like Remote and Rippling.
  • Atlassian: Clements maintains unwavering confidence in Atlassian founders Mike Cannon-Brooks and Scott Farquhar, stating "Never bet against Mike."
  • Competition: Excel respects and competes with firms like Meritech, Thrive, and Andreessen (specifically Matt Bornstein and Neil Marter) while acknowledging the breadth of the ecosystem.
  • Board Dynamics: The best board members combine humility with wisdom, avoiding the "rattling coin box" approach of being overly vocal or prescriptive without added value.
  • Founder Leadership: Clements prefers founder-led companies, noting that professional CEOs (e.g., Frank Slootman) are effective but that "unmistakably special" founders drive unique, long-term value.
  • Liquidity Strategy: Secondary sales and tenders are viewed as situational; the decision to sell depends on whether it benefits the company and founder first, citing CrowdStrike as a model for holding through public market volatility.