Interview, Fireside Chat
Episode 136: What’s It Really Like to Be a Goldman Sachs Intern?
Intern Demographics and Selection
- The Summer 2019 intern class represented the firm's most diverse cohort to date.
- Catherine Dorvitz (Baruch College) and Rebecca Shiner (Yeshiva University) will transition to full-time analyst roles.
- Dane Holmes serves as Head of Human Capital Management, overseeing people activities and leadership development.
Diversity, Inclusion, and Management Strategy
- Diversity is framed as a driver for better client solutions, a specific desire of top talent, and a prerequisite for a true meritocracy.
- 82% of interns surveyed indicated that developing managers who foster inclusive environments is a high priority.
- The firm is investing in education to ensure managers understand diverse perspectives and are empowered to care about individual team member goals.
- Interns define diversity holistically, emphasizing unique life experiences and skill sets over superficial demographics like race or gender alone.
- Managers are encouraged to use diversity as a catalyst for conversation, specifically inviting dialogue with those perceived as different to uncover commonalities and new learnings.
Work-Life Balance Definitions and Preferences
- Survey data reveals a generational split in defining work-life balance:
- 62% of interns associate balance with spending time with friends and family.
- 17% associate balance specifically with the ability to disconnect at the end of the day.
- Dane Holmes emphasizes "intentional living," where work and personal passions (family, community, charity) are intertwined rather than treated as opposing forces.
- Interns Rebecca and Catherine identify as part of the 17%, prioritizing mental disconnection to prevent burnout and maintain full presence in personal pursuits.
- The firm's culture encourages managers to actively identify and intervene in cases of potential burnout, such as employees consistently working late or on weekends.
- Survey data reveals a generational split in defining work-life balance:
Recruitment and Brand Loyalty
- Interns demonstrate a preference for "brand loyalty" over "product loyalty," valuing the firm's broader societal impact and reputation over specific role responsibilities.
- This shift necessitates a change in recruiting strategy from defining specific job tasks to showcasing the firm's purpose and potential for internal mobility.
- 92% of surveyed interns expect to work for five or fewer employers in their lifetime, contradicting stereotypes of high mobility among younger generations.
- Dane Holmes attributes this retention expectation to economic stability gained post-financial crisis and the empowerment of the current generation to seek specific cultural and structural fit.
Artificial Intelligence (AI) and Technology
- Interns predict AI will have the most profound global impact over the next decade, viewing it as a tool for enhancement rather than job displacement.
- The firm views AI through the lens of historical tools (e.g., the car, the internet), expecting it to create new opportunities and increase efficiency while disrupting existing processes.
- AI is being integrated into recruitment to match candidate skills with job opportunities more effectively than manual, ad-hoc interviewing.
- Digital natives acknowledge the necessity of managing technology use, setting boundaries (e.g., phone-free zones) to maintain focus and relationships.
Future Outlook and Personal Development
- Optimism centers on increased global connectivity, shared humanity, and the empowerment of individuals to actualize their potential.
- Catherine Dorvitz is planning to study international economics abroad in Berlin before graduation.
- Rebecca Shiner will finish her degree in January and is focusing on business law coursework.
- The panel shared current reading lists, including The Road to Character, Homo Deus, Lean In, and various historical fiction novels.