Panel, Fireside Chat
Gay Rights: Corporate America's New Export?
Milken InstituteKatie O'Reilly, Randy Berry, Beth Brooke-Marciniak, Jason Collins, Fred Hochberg, Ross LaJeunesse, Harry Keeley, Tim Hoy
Legal Landscape Shifts in the US:
- In 2006, only one US state legalized same-sex marriage; by 2015, the Supreme Court ruling legalized it nationwide.
- Despite marriage equality, employment protections remain limited; employees can still be fired for being gay or transgender in the majority of US states.
- Recent legislative rollbacks in states such as Georgia, North Carolina, and Mississippi threaten to rescind existing LGBT protections.
- Positive developments include the Obama administration's announcement to designate the Stonewall Inn as a historic national site.
Corporate Business Case for Inclusion:
- Corporations are increasingly driven by economic fundamentals rather than solely human rights advocacy.
- The LGBT consumer market represents a $3.7 trillion global spending power.
- Research by Credit Suisse indicates companies with inclusive workforces see a 3% differential in stock price performance.
- Only approximately 270 of 3,000 companies (less than 10%) meet the definition of LGBT inclusive according to recent Credit Suisse data.
- EY, a $28 billion enterprise operating in 155 countries, leverages its size to control workplace culture and influence societal norms.
- The HRC Corporate Equality Index shows growth from ~10 perfect scores over a decade ago to over 400 companies today.
Impact of Visibility and Personal Narrative:
- Panelists identified personal visibility ("coming out") as the primary driver for shifting corporate and public perceptions, more so than traditional advocacy.
- Jason Collins (NBA) cites leadership from Commissioner David Stern (e.g., fining Kobe Bryant $50,000 for a slur) as critical for setting a culture of accountability.
- Beth Brooke Marciniak (EY) noted that her public coming out unlocked trust within EY's LGBT workforce, shifting the culture from one of assimilation to one of celebrating difference.
- Visibility is described as a tool to dispel ignorance; lack of visibility often prevents stakeholders from realizing LGBT individuals are capable of holding senior roles.
Strategic Global Engagement:
- Corporate engagement is often more effective than government pressure in certain regions, as it avoids the "political blowback" associated with US diplomatic efforts.
- Google utilized local strategies in sensitive markets: sponsoring the "Pink Dot" rally in Singapore and holding an off-site meeting for LGBT employees in India to signal policy support without overt confrontation.
- In Hungary, Google's participation in the 2013 Budapest Pride Parade provided physical protection for the group, a security measure the government might not have afforded civil society alone.
- Indonesia: The personal biography of Fred Hochberg (Ex-Im Bank) influenced a local minister to acknowledge LGBT issues, demonstrating the power of individual leadership in cross-cultural dialogue.
- In Pakistan, a surprising cultural dynamic was observed where transgender individuals faced less stigma than gay or lesbian individuals due to perceived sexual fluidity.
Government and Policy Perspectives:
- The US State Department established the first Special Envoy for LGBTI Human Rights to leverage diplomatic influence to "bend the moral arc" and engage business leaders.
- The State Department currently has eight openly gay ambassadors serving in challenging environments globally.
- Fred Hochberg noted that corporate culture offers more stability than political administrations, as civil servants often fear policy reversals with changes in administration (e.g., the 8-year gap in Pride events between 2001 and 2009).
- 75 countries still enforce laws criminalizing homosexuality with imprisonment or the death penalty; 34 countries recognize gay marriage.
- South American nations (Argentina, Chile, Uruguay, Brazil, Colombia) are identified as key engines of change in the Western Hemisphere, potentially influencing English-speaking Caribbean nations.
Investment and Partnership Strategies:
- Investors like CalSTRS are advised to partner with coalitions such as "Open for Business" to advance LGBT inclusion using economic arguments rather than social ones.
- The "Open for Business" initiative, co-founded by Google and EY, aggregates data to demonstrate how inclusion drives profitability, talent retention, and consumer access.
- Chick-fil-A / China Strategy Discussion:
- Panelists advised against simply exiting markets due to conflicting values, arguing that internal engagement is more effective than external protest.
- The philosophy presented is that leaving a market removes the workforce and potential for internal change; staying allows for "knee-skinned" influence on decision-making.
- Companies like Deutsche Bank and PayPal have chosen to limit expansion in regions like North Carolina due to local legislation.
Regional Specifics and Challenges:
- In Japan, the State Department engaged in a multi-year strategy to normalize LGBT visibility through high-profile interviews and cultural events, despite local leadership resistance.
- China presents a challenge where corporate employees may be closeted; Google maintains offices in Beijing and Shanghai but calibrates engagement to local safety and legal constraints.
- Brazil: Sports envoys are engaging with the Brazilian Sports Federation to prepare for the coming out of athletes, fostering an environment of authenticity.
- Singapore: Corporate support for "Pink Dot" evolved from a single sponsor to a significant movement, demonstrating the impact of gradual, low-risk corporate entry.