Interview, Fireside Chat
Has the AI rally gone too far?
Market Outlook & AI Theme
- Josh Shiffrin identifies the primary downside risk as the unresolved geopolitical situation in Iran; resolution would keep the market on track.
- Dominick Wilson argues the AI investment theme is "more normal than perceived," supported by a powerful macro story and an ongoing CapEx boom.
- Wilson notes that macro balances reminiscent of the 1990s have not yet emerged, with AI capex and profits as a share of GDP reaching record highs.
- Both analysts agree the broad market trend remains positive despite the potential for near-term pullbacks.
- Earnings Context
- Q1 reporting was "terrific," driven by strong fundamentals in the US and Korea.
- Wilson initially estimated corporate earnings growth at "high, high teens" year-over-year.
- Wilson later corrected this figure to the "high 20s" when including private equity mark-to-market valuations.
- Market performance remains resilient despite absorbing tariffs and higher oil prices.
Signs of Speculative Euphoria
- Wilson identifies emerging speculative enthusiasm specifically within the tech and semiconductor sectors.
- Assets in levered ETFs focused on US semiconductors have surpassed $100 billion in a very short period.
- There is extraordinary volume in call options for specific single stocks, indicating heightened risk-taking by both professional and retail traders.
- Dominic Wilson cautions that while fundamentals support the rally, the intensity of risk-taking has increased.
Federal Reserve Policy
- The consensus view is that the Fed will remain on hold ("watch and wait") for the remainder of the year.
- Kevin Warsh's official appointment is expected to lead to a removal of forward guidance and signaling language rather than immediate policy shifts.
- There is currently little appetite for rate hikes despite higher inflation data, or cuts, creating a state of stasis.
- Conditions for a Rate Hike
- A hike would require a simultaneous alignment of persistent inflation and a tightening labor market (declining unemployment).
- The "house view" assigns only a 10% probability to a hike, contingent on evidence of sustained unemployment decline and high inflation into the summer.
- Analysts argue that inflation alone is insufficient to trigger a hike without labor market pressure.
- Rate cuts are viewed as more likely to materialize towards the end of the year or into 2026, contingent on labor market softness resolving inflation quickly.
Global Currencies & De-dollarization
- The narrative of de-dollarization has "ebbed," driven by the robustness of US corporate earnings and the resilience of the US economy.
- The US dollar has remained flat year-to-date, acting as a "sideshow" rather than a primary market driver.
- Emerging market currencies, particularly China (CNH), are appreciating steadily due to favorable terms of trade and Euro funding.
- Dominic Wilson prefers a mix of the Australian dollar and Brazilian real, while Josh Shiffrin favors the Chinese currency based on its persistent upward grind.
- Shiffrin predicts a long-term trend of "dollarization" rather than de-dollarization due to US innovation and capital flow dominance.
Commodities & Energy
- The primary commodity narrative is the unresolved geopolitical tension in the Middle East, which keeps energy supply constraints active.
- Copper prices have rallied rapidly, signaling a broader growth reflation trade alongside rising bond yields and equities.
- Gold has not resumed its previous climb, contrasting with the performance of other industrial commodities.
- Hedging Strategy
- Shiffrin advocates hedging risky assets directly rather than betting on oil price direction, noting oil's current price symmetry.
- The most under-hedged risk is the "downside tail" from an energy resolution; if the Iran problem is solved, oil prices could fall significantly.
- Analysts suggest that long-duration rate hedges (betting on lower rates in 2-3 years) are currently undervalued as the market has shifted focus away from disinflation.
Regional Market Performance
- Asia: Markets in Korea (Kospi), Taiwan, and Japan have broken out of cycle lows and are performing strongly, offering a mix of tech and commodity exposure.
- China: The CNH currency is appreciating, and the market appears to have "turned a corner" after lagging.
- Europe: The region is the outlier in the global recovery, lagging significantly behind Asia and the US.
- The Euro-to-S&P ratio is approaching historical lows, suggesting potential for a mean reversion.
- Europe remains a "tougher putt" compared to the previous year.
Credit Markets
- Credit markets are described as "tight," with analysts noting a lack of a traditional credit cycle in recent years.
- Dominic Wilson suggests that given the market's run-up, investors may not have sufficient downside protection in credit if a sharp downturn occurs.
Non-Market Discussion
- Josh Shiffrin is supporting the New York Knicks in the Eastern Conference Finals.
- Dominic Wilson's hobbies include spending time with a new family dog in New York City, cooking, and reading hardcover books to avoid digital distractions.