Interview, Fireside Chat, Roundtable
Home Affordability Crisis, Palantir's Advantage, Big Short on AI, H-1B Abuse, Solar Storm Hits Earth
All-In PodcastMichael Burry, Chamath, Jason, Friedberg, Trump, Omapproach, Latestinspace, David Sacks
Michael Burry, Palantir Shorts, and AI Accounting
- Michael Burry deregistered his firm with the SEC and disclosed shorts against Palantir.
- CNBC reported the short position value at $900 million; Burry clarified the actual value was $9 million.
- Burry argued the media error stemmed from confusion regarding option multipliers (100 shares per option) rather than a lack of asset market knowledge.
- The hosts debated whether the media error was unintentional financial illiteracy or a deliberate maneuver to manipulate the stock price via a fabricated headline.
- Burry accused major hyperscalers (Meta, Oracle) of "cooking the books" by extending asset depreciation schedules.
- He alleged these companies inflated earnings by over 20% in 2028 through hidden depreciation adjustments totaling $176 billion.
- The core of the argument is that if server lifespans extend from 3 years to 6 years, reported operating expenses halve, significantly inflating profit margins.
- The hosts refuted Burry's accounting claims based on technical realities of AI infrastructure.
- Google adjusted its depreciation schedules incrementally: servers from 3 to 4 years (2021), networking from 3 to 5 years (2021), and then to 6 years (2023).
- The extended lifespans are justified by the shift in data center utility from storage (3-year lifespan drives/RAM) to AI processing (chips with 6+ year utility).
- Google reported 100% utilization on 7-8 year old TPUs and GPUs, validating the longer depreciation periods.
- Chip design iterations (kernel updates, SRAM swaps, new chiplets) extend hardware viability, contradicting Burry's assumption of obsolescence.
- The hosts criticized short-selling tactics generally as mechanisms for creating Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt (FUD) rather than uncovering fraud.
- One host noted that while shorting provides a check on malfeasance, most short-sellers profit from market chaos rather than uncovering actual fraud.
- A host cited personal experience running a hedge fund, noting they found only one legitimate fraud case (a wireless telecom operator with a pizza parlor address) after years of searching for shorts.
Palantir Valuation and Business Model
- Palantir trades at a valuation of $480 billion, representing a 137x price-to-sales ratio based on a $3.5 billion annual run rate.
- Comparisons to peers highlight the outlier status of Palantir's valuation.
- Datadog and Snowflake trade at roughly 13x sales.
- Cloudflare trades at 37x sales; Crowdstrike at 30x sales.
- Applying a 13x multiple to Palantir would value the company at approximately $45–$60 billion ($29/share).
- The hosts defended Palantir's premium valuation based on market uniqueness and lack of substitutes.
- Competitors like MongoDB and Snowflake face higher churn risks due to available alternatives in the market.
- Palantir possesses a unique, differentiated product with no clear competitor, justifying a higher valuation for cash flow durability.
- Investors are pricing in high growth potential (30–45% year-over-year) rather than current earnings multiples.
- One host explicitly stated the Palantir short thesis is "stupid" and predicted short sellers would lose money.
Affordability Crisis and Housing Policy
- The Trump administration proposed 50-year mortgages to reduce monthly payments by 20–30%, drawing criticism from economists like Matt Taibbi who called it "debt slavery."
- FHF director Bill Pohl indicated the FHFA is evaluating "portable mortgages" to allow homeowners to transfer low-interest rates to new properties.
- Data shows the average age of first-time homebuyers has jumped to 40, up from 28 in 1991 and 33 in 2021.
- Los Angeles passed a 12-2 vote to limit rent increases to 90% of CPI (capped at 4% with a 1% floor).
- The hosts argued rent controls disincentivize new construction and maintenance by capping potential returns on investment.
- Existing regulations and Proposition 13 (California) already create significant disincentives for housing supply and liquidity.
- Government-backed liquidity (Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac) is cited as a driver of housing inflation.
- The hosts compare this dynamic to student loans and healthcare, where government capital infusion leads to price spikes rather than accessibility.
- A "two countries" phenomenon is observed regarding housing affordability.
- Coastal cities (NY, SF, LA) face extreme unaffordability due to strict building restrictions.
- Austin and Houston offer affordability; rent has dropped 20% in Austin over three years due to high supply.
- In Texas, a household earning $130k can pay 10–15% of income for rent and secure a down payment for a $500k home.
- Ben Shapiro's viral comment that unaffordable areas should not be lived in was defended as an acknowledgment of economic reality.
- The hosts argued that young people should move to markets with growth and affordability rather than remaining in high-cost coastal hubs.
- Proposed solutions for student debt involve putting universities on the hook for first losses.
- Bill Ackman suggested universities underwrite the first $20,000 of debt, incentivizing them to vet the viability of degree programs.
- This would create a market check to discourage degrees that do not yield sufficient economic returns.
H-1B Visa Reform and Immigration
- President Trump and his advisors are addressing H-1B visa abuses through fee structures and application reforms.
- Current H-1B system allows companies with large international workforces to file massive numbers of applications, skewing odds against smaller firms.
- Proposed reforms include:
- Implementing a $100,000 fee for H-1B visas to signal the economic value of the talent.
- Switching to an auction system where companies bid for visas, with proceeds funding vocational training and retraining programs.
- Targeting fees specifically at high-skill roles (e.g., AI PhDs) where the cost is negligible, while exempting lower-wage roles.
- The hosts criticized the contradiction in the administration's approach.
- While business allies like Howard Lutnik push for investment and skilled labor, ICE agents are deporting skilled workers at Hyundai plants.
- The hosts argued the administration must present a unified message favoring high-skilled immigration to support domestic manufacturing.
Solar Storms and Geomagnetic Risks
- Three major Coronal Mass Ejections (CMEs) occurred in rapid succession, resulting in a G5 (extreme) geomagnetic storm.
- Two CMEs combined, causing the highest recorded level of magnetic field disturbance.
- The storm produced auroras visible as far south as Texas.
- Risks associated with extreme solar events include:
- Disruption to GPS and satellite communications.
- Potential for shorts in conducting materials on the surface and in the grid.
- Radiation spikes at high latitudes, forcing the cancellation of flights over the North Pole.
- Historical context: The 1859 Carrington Event was the largest recorded solar storm.
- A modern equivalent could disable satellites and fry microchips, potentially causing a civilization-level collapse.
- Long-term outlook suggests a shift from electron-based computing to photon-based systems to mitigate these risks.
- Photonic systems are less susceptible to magnetic interference and high-energy particle damage.
Migration Trends and "The Great Confiscation"
- A trend of tech professionals relocating from the U.S. to international hubs is accelerating.
- Primary migration destinations include Tokyo, Riyadh, and the "Forest City" project in Malaysia.
- The Malaysian project is described as a sovereign-style community with integrated housing, education, and lifestyle fees.
- Motivations for migration include:
- "The Great Confiscation": High taxes and asset seizures in states like California and New York.
- Seeking "escape hatches" via golden visas or second passports in countries like Japan, Singapore, and Saudi Arabia.
- Perception that the U.S. is at the end of its economic cycle, prompting a move to "Wild West" environments with new rules.