Interview, Podcast
How much higher can bond yields go?
Current Macroeconomic Outlook & Fed Policy
- Inflation Persistence: Strong recent economic data has increased concerns that inflation will remain "stickier than expected," challenging earlier market recessions.
- Fed Rate Peak: Rick Reeder (BlackRock) posits the Federal Reserve is approaching the peak of the interest rate hiking cycle, predicting rates will likely "sit at the top for a long time."
- Terminal Rate Forecasts:
- Goldman Sachs Research (Praveen Kaurapati) forecasts a Fed terminal rate between 5.25% and 5.5%.
- Goldman Sachs revises their 10-year Treasury yield forecast to 4.2% by year-end, peaking slightly above 4.25% in Q3 before declining to 4.0% next year.
- Goldman Sachs views the 4.0% long-run equilibrium rate as higher than historical norms, implying a structural shift in the neutral rate.
- Policy Trade-offs: Reeder argues the Fed will likely avoid deeper hikes to prevent sacrificing 3 million jobs to reduce inflation from 3% to 2%, citing a shift of money from capital to labor in lower-wage sectors (education, healthcare, hospitality).
- 2024-2025 Expectations: Reeder anticipates the Fed will begin cutting rates in 2024 as the economy moderates and fiscal stimulus wanes due to debt constraints.
Yield Curve Dynamics & Investment Strategy
- Historic Inversion: The U.S. yield curve is at its deepest level of inversion in decades; short-term bills (3-month) yield significantly more than 10-year Treasuries (approx. 4%).
- Drivers of Inversion: The inversion is attributed less to recession fears (which are falling) and more to investor conviction that the long-run equilibrium rate remains low relative to current short-term rates.
- Investment Shift: Reeder notes that "functional cash" (front-end curve yields >5%) is now highly attractive, prompting a shift away from quality assets with tight spreads toward cash or short-duration instruments in the interim.
- Risk Mitigation: Unlike 2023, when cash was the primary hedge, 2024 offers diverse tools (duration, currency, lower equity volatilty) to mitigate risk while remaining invested.
Global Central Bank Scenarios
- Bank of Japan (BOJ):
- Policy Shift: Under new leadership (Governor Ueda), the BOJ may modify Yield Curve Control (YCC) by shifting the 10-year target to the 5-year point rather than a full exit.
- Market Impact: A 5-year YCC shift is expected to cause limited spillover (approx. 15-20 bps) to global markets as it is largely anticipated; full normalization would carry higher risks.
- Yen Outlook: Markets anticipate a strengthening Yen; while positioning is heavy, Reeder expects the appreciation to be deliberate and mitigated by BOJ policy preparation.
- European Central Bank (ECB):
- Hawkish Stance: Rising inflation and resilient growth in Europe have pushed terminal rate expectations higher, with forecasts revised to 3.75% and upside risks to 4%.
- Debt Sustainability Concerns: Higher real rates raise concerns regarding debt sustainability for heavily indebted peripheral nations, particularly Italy.
- Bank of England (BoE):
- Constraints: The BoE faces a difficult mix of high inflation, poor growth, and a large mortgage market sensitive to short-term rates, likely preventing it from hiking as aggressively as the Fed.
- UK Yields: The 10-year Gilt forecast is 4.0%, with higher yields reflecting an increased inflation risk premium rather than purely higher policy rates.
- Bank of Japan (BOJ):
Asset Allocation & Regional Opportunities
- European Assets: Reeder identifies European bonds and equities as "more interesting and attractive" than U.S. assets due to superior valuations and technicals, offering cheap yields for dollar investors via swaps.
- U.S. Credit: Tight spreads in U.S. credit, mortgage-backed securities, and top-tier securitizations are viewed as less compelling compared to European opportunities.
- Fixed Income Appeal: The front-end of the yield curve offers an annualized return of over 5%, making "being a lender" and owning quality income-producing assets a primary strategy for 2023-2024.