Panel
How to Be a Man in 2018
Panel Overview & Context
- The session, titled "How to Be a Man in 2018," explores the intersection of traditional masculinity, gender stereotypes, and modern workplace dynamics.
- Moderated by Richard Sandler (Executive Vice President, Milken Family Foundation), the panel features Michael Ian Black, Joanne Lipman, Kevin O'Leary, and Alex Rodriguez.
- The discussion frames gender inequality not merely as a social issue but as a "bad business" practice that negatively impacts productivity, culture, and the bottom line.
Michael Ian Black: Masculinity, Parenting, and Social Harm
- Black's activism stems from the Sandy Hook and Parkland school shootings, linking mass violence committed by young men to restrictive definitions of masculinity.
- He identifies the primary male emotional responses to stress as "withdrawal" or "rage," noting a lack of broader emotional language for men.
- Black argues that cultural constructs of masculinity force men to be "closed off," contributing to measurable declines in male life expectancy and increases in suicide and addiction rates.
- He advises parents to model "full humanity" rather than narrow gender roles, acknowledging that peer groups and media culture often override parental influence.
- Black asserts that men are conditioned to view vulnerability as a loss of power, whereas women are often conditioned to seek cooperation and emotional intelligence.
Joanne Lipman: Unconscious Bias and the "Half-Conversation"
- Lipman emphasizes that gender inequality is a systemic issue requiring male allies, as women-only conversations constitute only "half the conversation."
- Data cited indicates women are interrupted three times more frequently than men, a trend observed even among female Supreme Court Justices compared to their male counterparts.
- Lipman notes a phenomenon where male colleagues often repeat women's ideas to receive credit, highlighting how "male voices" are culturally prioritized.
- Research confirms that resumes with male names receive more callbacks and higher salary offers than identical resumes with female names.
- Lipman reports that women are 15% less likely to be promoted than men at every career level.
- Early socialization creates bias: mothers overestimate sons' physical abilities and overestimate daughters' genius potential, while boys outperform girls on math tests only when their names are visible (implying gender bias affects grading).
- Lipman critiques standard diversity training, citing a Harvard study showing it often worsened outcomes due to male resentment; she advocates for "unconscious bias" training and CEO-level ownership of diversity as a business imperative.
- She clarifies a key cultural misunderstanding: when women cry in the office, it often signals anger or frustration rather than emotional hurt, a nuance men frequently misinterpret.
Kevin O'Leary: Economic Incentives and Performance Data
- O'Leary shifted his investment strategy from male-led to female-led companies after discovering superior performance metrics in his own portfolio.
- His research on 34 small-cap private companies revealed that firms run by women hit sales targets 95% of the time, compared to 65% for companies run by men.
- O'Leary attributes female business success to superior time management and efficiency, describing this as the "killer secret sauce" for financial returns.
- Consistent goal achievement by women-run firms leads to near-zero staff turnover, creating a "sticky" culture that boosts IRR (Internal Rate of Return).
- He asserts that financial performance is the primary driver of social change, predicting that economic incentives will resolve gender imbalances faster than moral appeals.
- O'Leary views the recent Nike scandal as a positive catalyst for broader market change, as transparency and social media pressure force boards to prioritize inclusive management to protect market cap.
- He believes investors will increasingly favor female CEOs, noting that performance metrics suggest women should be the CEOs in roughly 50% of opportunities.
- O'Leary dismisses fear of sexual harassment as an excuse for avoiding female employees, stating that the vast majority of women are not perceived as predators, and men must re-engage to solve the issue.
Alex Rodriguez: Leadership, Vulnerability, and Athletic Culture
- Rodriguez credits his upbringing by a single mother and the Boys & Girls Club for his drive to become both a businessman and a present father.
- He invested early in real estate to secure generational wealth, driven by the short career span of athletes (avg. 5.5 years) and the financial instability he witnessed in his childhood.
- Rodriguez's company is led primarily by women (Chief of Staff, Managing Director, CFO), selected based on merit and character rather than gender quotas.
- He advocates for gender diversity in baseball management, noting the absence of female General Managers despite the high success rate of female athletes like Jessica Mendoza.
- Rodriguez admits to his steroid suspension as a major personal failure, emphasizing that owning mistakes publicly and making "uncomfortable calls" restored his reputation and partnerships.
- He describes the "athletic culture" of "blood sports" as one that often values winning over culture building, suggesting a need to shift metrics to include talent curation and equality.
- He advises young men to recognize that vulnerability and admitting error are not signs of weakness but essential components of true leadership.
Audience Q&A: The "Me Too" Movement and Mentorship
- A primary concern raised was the "backlash" where men avoid mentoring women or conducting business travel due to fear of false accusations.
- Panelists agree this is an unintended negative consequence of the "Me Too" movement, causing a temporary "hollowing out" of cross-gender professional relationships.
- O'Leary argues that economic necessity and performance metrics will eventually force the pendulum to swing back, as companies cannot afford to lose top talent.
- Lipman suggests that women must also own their biases and create an inclusive environment to alleviate men's fears of saying the wrong thing.
- The group identifies a lack of male-to-male conversation about toxic masculinity as a critical gap, noting that while women have reclaimed their narratives, men remain silent.
Closing Statements
- Kevin O'Leary expresses optimism that economic forces and transparency will drive massive change within 10 years.
- Michael Ian Black calls for "courage of compassion," urging men to recognize their own vulnerability and cooperate with women rather than viewing them as opponents.
- Alex Rodriguez warns against all forms of bias (including appearance-based bias) and reiterates that diversity is the "best thing for your organization" from a performance standpoint.
- Joanne Lipman concludes that closing the gender gap is an "all-of-us issue" requiring men and women to work together, rejecting the notion that it can be solved by either side alone.