Interview, Fireside Chat
Inside a16z Growth: Waymo, Stripe, ElevenLabs, Revolut, Coinbase, Kalshi
Market Disconnect & Growth Rates:
- Less than five public U.S. software or fintech companies are growing at over 30% this year.
- A16Z's growth fund did not invest in any company growing 30% last year.
- OpenAI and Anthropic added as much revenue last year as half of the public cloud universe (excluding the "Magnificent Seven").
- The A16Z portfolio averages over 100% growth; early growth companies must demonstrate several hundred percent growth to qualify.
Gross Margins & AI Economics:
- Many emerging AI companies currently show gross margins between 0% and 50%, contrasting with the historical 70% benchmark.
- Lower margins are attributed to high LLM costs; the investment thesis focuses on whether a company has meaningful differentiation beyond someone else's model.
- A16Z assesses defensibility via workflows, integrations, and proprietary data to justify current lower margins and anticipate future path to free cash flow.
- Engagement metrics (retention) are prioritized as leading indicators, particularly for companies with long annual contracts and rapid revenue base growth.
Waymo Investment & Autonomous Driving:
- Waymo raised $16 billion at a $126 billion valuation in Series D; A16Z participated in all four external rounds including Series A.
- Waymo achieved 25% market share in San Francisco with a limited fleet, currently operating in 1,000 vehicles and scaling to 20 new cities.
- Ride-hailing represents a $125 billion market growing at low double digits, yet accounts for less than 1% of total U.S. vehicle miles.
- A16Z views the future as a "productive oligopoly" where Waymo holds meaningful share against competitors like Tesla, Zoox, and Chinese firms.
- Waymo's safety advantage relies on a full-stack approach with lidar, outperforming Tesla's camera-only FSD in adverse weather and accident metrics.
- Business model evolution may shift toward outsourcing fleet operations (like in Phoenix/Atlanta) to third parties to improve margins compared to self-operated models.
11 Labs & Voice AI:
- 11 Labs raised $500 million, combining a high-growth organic consumer business with a massive enterprise footprint including Meta, Salesforce, and Revolut.
- CEO Matt Shumer is credited with rapid execution and building defensibility despite the commoditization risk of audio models.
- The platform has diversified use cases across sales, customer support, healthcare, and finance, moving beyond audio as a mere feature to a primary human-computer interface.
Kalshi (Prediction Markets):
- Kalshi secured regulatory approval as the first CFTC-regulated prediction market, a strategy that built trust for partnerships with Robinhood, Coinbase, and CNN.
- Kalshi surpassed Polymarket to become the market leader in users, revenue, and volume due to its regulatory-first approach and resilience.
- The company distinguishes itself from traditional gambling by matching participants against each other rather than acting as the house.
- A16Z views the sector as an emerging market where best product execution and regulatory compliance will determine long-term winners.
Fintech Portfolio Dynamics:
- Robinhood: Operates 11 business lines generating $100 million+ revenue each, with growth driven by diversified product lines.
- Revolut: Functions as a "fintech super app" with 10 revenue streams, none exceeding 20% of total revenue; focused on transactional payments rather than net interest income, resulting in 40% ROE and 100%+ net revenue retention.
- Coinbase: Founder Brian Armstrong is highlighted for his mission-focused leadership and bold strategic moves, including stablecoin development for international remittance and treasury.
Investment Strategy & Metrics:
- A16Z avoids "cookie-cutter" evaluation; key through-lines include high growth, a clear path to end-state margins, and strong retention (high net dollar retention).
- The firm prioritizes backing market leaders, citing the "Cadillac vs. Steak Knives" principle: the market leader captures the vast majority of market cap.
- A16Z seeks companies with a viable "Act Two" (e.g., Elise AI expanding from a leasing assistant to a property management suite).
- Expected exit valuations have shifted from $1.5 billion (top 1% in 2009) to $10 billion currently, with a projected $40 billion top 1% outcome in 8–10 years.
- A16Z's marketing and media capabilities are leveraged to ensure viral launches for portfolio companies and to secure corporate partnerships.
Future Outlook & Trillionaire Prediction:
- Elon Musk is identified as the 90%+ probability candidate for the world's first trillionaire.
- Larry Page (Alphabet) is the projected second trillionaire, leveraging holdings in search, DeepMind, and stakes in Anthropic and SpaceX.
- A16Z believes the $100 million revenue benchmark is outdated; the target is now $1 billion, with 150 companies expected to reach that annual run-rate yearly.
- AI agents are here for enterprise use (e.g., personal assistants), though C-Suite concerns remain regarding security and deployment in corporate systems.
Operational Leverage:
- Roughly 50% of A16Z growth investments are follow-ons to early-stage winners where the firm has board access and strong information flow.
- 90% of growth fund portfolio companies have been evaluated by the early-stage team prior to the growth round.
- The firm utilizes internal operating teams (revenue operations, executive hiring) to drive value post-investment.