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Leaders in Asset Management | Global Conference 2025

  • The firm plans to expand beyond its previous niche status to serve a broader range of institutions, individual investors, and insurance companies while maintaining an entrepreneurial culture to attract talent and avoid bureaucratic inefficiency.
  • Long-term capital movement is expected to be driven by premium returns in private assets, fueled by a fundamental economic restructuring requiring enormous capital for data centers, GPUs, and energy systems globally.
  • Future growth is anticipated to be powered by government financing needs for infrastructure, next-generation data, power, and defense, as these long-dated complex assets cannot be financed on bank balance sheets or in public markets.
  • A megatrend is predicted involving the shift from non-investment grade to investment-grade private credit, which is expected to be just at the beginning of its market cycle.
  • The market outlook anticipates a renaissance in Japan driven by capitalization standard changes, while India is projected to perform well as the primary emerging market investment for the next couple of decades.
  • Significant growth is expected in the Middle East, with plans to become a massively large investor in the UAE and a very large investor in Saudi Arabia as these governments focus on domestic markets and establish capital markets.
  • The U.S. is viewed as well-positioned relative to Europe, though Europe is expected to increasingly seek private capital due to a lack of deep capital markets and less flexible banking systems.
  • The firm expects traditional asset managers to become its largest clients as active management shifts toward adding private assets to public beta, alongside regulatory shifts that may turn non-bank financial system headwinds into tailwinds.
  • Capital base growth is planned with a strict vow that expansion will not exceed the capacity to produce good returns, ensuring the firm remains a critical derivative of trends governments are unable to address, such as retirement financing.
  • The outlook acknowledges that while Europe offers interesting credit opportunities due to regulatory leverage, the equity side is viewed as less bullish due to current macro trends, though significant time will be spent developing financing markets there.
  • Additional expansion into other emerging markets is anticipated as investment-grade financing becomes possible, with growth occurring on the margin rather than substantially in all regions.
  • Premium returns are expected to continue driving the long-term movement of capital into private assets, particularly as public markets become increasingly indexed and correlated, creating opportunities for bespoke private solutions.