newsfilter.io
Interview, Fireside Chat

Mass Surveillance, Police Misuse, and Who Controls Your Flock Cameras with Flock CEO, Garret Langley

  • Flock's Scale and Impact:

    • Flock operates in roughly 6,000 U.S. cities.
    • The system solved over 1 million crimes last year.
    • Flock located more than 10,000 missing persons, including children and those with dementia.
    • In July alone, Flock assisted in locating over 1,125 missing people and 20,000 stolen vehicles.
    • 90% of crimes are solvable using only seven days of data retention, according to Flock's internal estimates.
    • 90% of crimes are solvable using only seven days of data retention, according to Flock's internal estimates.
  • Data Retention Policies and Defaults:

    • Flock has shifted its default data retention period from 30 days down to 7 days.
    • City councils retain final authority to set their own retention limits, ranging from 2 days to statutory maximums (e.g., 5 years in New Jersey).
    • Flock does not utilize facial recognition, capture video, look inside vehicles, or allow user-based searches for individuals.
    • Flock captures static license plate images along with vehicle characteristics such as make, model, color, and damage (e.g., dents, missing hubcaps).
  • Governance and Decision Making:

    • Flock attends approximately 10,000 city council meetings annually to explain product capabilities and limitations.
    • Local police chiefs and city managers propose technology adoption, with final votes cast by elected city council members.
    • Some communities have chosen to deactivate Flock due to privacy concerns, while others have reactivated them after experiencing increased crime rates.
    • The company reports a churn rate of approximately 1%, a deviation from its historical zero-churn model.
  • System Abuse and Audit Controls:

    • Flock identified and reported a dozen instances of abuse over eight years prior to deploying new detection tools.
    • A new mandatory "Audit Assistance" tool has been built to detect abnormal search patterns indicative of stalking or personal vendettas.
    • The tool flags anomalies, such as repeated searches for the same vehicle without a corresponding "hot list" entry for the wider department.
    • Police departments have fired officers based on data from Flock's audit logs; one chief in Georgia recently fired nine officers for the most severe offenses.
    • Flock requires the new audit tool to be enabled as a mandatory feature for all customers.
  • AI and Emerging Technology Risks:

    • Flock is intentionally delaying the deployment of AI features for 911 systems to avoid hallucination risks and ensure human-in-the-loop oversight.
    • The company rejects AI capabilities that define suspicion or predict crimes (e.g., "pre-cog" tracking of suspicious behavior) before a human crime has been established.
    • Drone technology, currently Flock's fastest-growing business unit, is used to de-escalate 911 calls (e.g., verifying if a person with a weapon is actually holding a toy) before police dispatch.
    • Drones launch from automated docks on police roofs, reaching 911 calls within minutes to visually confirm threats.
    • There is currently zero federal regulation governing drone surveillance, with only FAA air safety rules applying.
  • Community Pushback and Reputation:

    • Flock faced significant public backlash, including camera vandalism and protests driven by misinformation regarding facial recognition capabilities.
    • Approximately 1% of Flock's 6,000+ customer cities have deactivated the system, largely due to misinformation about competitor features.
    • Several cities (roughly 20) have reactivated their Flock systems after realizing the negative impact on public safety and crime clearance rates.
    • CEO Garrett Langley acknowledges past communication failures but emphasizes the necessity of strong data defaults to protect community values.
    • The company is addressing the "surveillance state" fear by clarifying that Flock does not track individuals who opt out of the system via private property rights or state laws.
  • Competitive Landscape and Industry Standards:

    • Flock distinguishes itself from competitors (such as Ring or other ALPR providers) by refusing to offer facial recognition or unrestricted data sharing.
    • Competitors are described as running "reckless" models without the same level of audit accountability and data governance.
    • Flock is willing to lose customers who refuse to adhere to strict accountability and audit standards.
    • State-level regulations vary significantly, with New Hampshire setting a 3-minute retention limit and Washington setting a 21-day limit.
  • Transparency and Future Outlook:

    • Flock customers have access to transparency portals showing audit logs, drone flight patterns, and camera locations.
    • Real-time flight logs are generally delayed to protect active investigations, though lag-free data is available for command staff during critical events.
    • CEO Langley predicts that cities will increasingly readdress Flock contracts as public sentiment shifts back toward safety following high-profile crime spikes.
    • The company aims to set industry-wide defaults for accountability, forcing competitors to eventually match these standards.