Interview, Fireside Chat, Podcast
Morgan Housel: Understanding Elon Musk, Jensen Huang and Other Outliers in Tech
Morgan Housel: Career Path & The Nature of Success
- Housel has spent 17 years as a financial writer, initially a field he did not intend to enter; he began at The Motley Fool in 2008 (post-2008 financial crisis) out of desperation for any finance-related paycheck.
- He transitioned to a full-time writing and speaking role at Collaborative Fund in 2016, a position where his sole output is written content and public speaking.
- His books, The Psychology of Money and The Same as Ever, have collectively sold over 5 million copies, with The Psychology of Money launching with a 5,000-copy print run that was considered ambitious at the time.
- Housel observes that massive success in publishing and startups is rarely predicted; the publisher and family did not foresee his book's success, mirroring how Venture Capital (VC) funds rarely identify their eventual 100X winners at the seed stage.
- He attributes 90% of virality and outlier success in content, companies, and sports to "luck" or serendipity (factors outside control), noting that even successful figures like Mr. Beast or Bill Gates had non-replicable elements like being born in the right era.
- Housel rejects the "morning routine" obsession of successful people as a flawed attempt to replicate cause-and-effect when the outcome is largely driven by uncontrollable variables.
- He argues that jealousy toward successful figures often stems from a cognitive bias where observers focus solely on luck while discounting the extreme hard work and genius required.
- High-profile success often attracts envy and "hate" because the successful individual's extreme competence makes the observer's own lack of success feel more unjustified.
- Musk is cited as a prime example of the "crazy genius" archetype where rude behavior and a lack of political correctness are inherent trade-offs for the ability to take on massive challenges like space travel and EV manufacturing.
- Housel posits that the "crazy" parts of a genius's personality that drive their success (obsession, single-mindedness) are often the same traits that make them difficult to work with or be close to, citing Henry Ford, Thomas Edison, and Steve Jobs as examples.
- Successful founders are often described as "tortured" rather than just "driven," suffering from an internal anxiety that compels them to solve problems, often at the expense of their mental health, family life, and sleep.
- Housel distinguishes his own personality from these founders, preferring a balanced life with 9 hours of sleep and time for family, noting that trying to force a different personality type is counterproductive.
- He views the current AI hype (e.g., ChatGPT) through a historical lens, noting that major technologies like the airplane, automobile, and internet took decades to transform society, suggesting AI job displacement will be a slow, multi-decade process rather than an overnight event.
The Venture Capital Cycle: Zero Interest Rates, Stories, and Reality
- The post-2020 capital cycle was driven by a "zero interest rate" environment where valuations became 100% dependent on future stories because the discount rate was zero, making future earnings as valuable as current ones.
- Housel defines markets as entities that seek the "boundaries of what other investors can bear," forcing valuations to absurd levels temporarily to find the limit of market tolerance.
- The current market correction (interest rates at ~5.5%) has re-emphasized the "number from today" (current cash flow) over the "story about tomorrow," exposing the gap between building a "great product" and a "great business."
- Housel notes that the hit rate for VC investments is naturally low because investors must believe in stories of things that do not yet exist, a risk that includes legitimate outliers like Amazon as well as frauds like Theranos and FTX.
- Companies like WeWork are highlighted as examples where a "real estate" business was re-framed with "yoga babble" to justify valuations 100x its peers, illustrating the dangers of storytelling without fundamentals.
- A significant number of VC funds are expected to disappear or close as "tourist investors" who entered during the easy capital cycle leave when the environment becomes difficult.
- Housel identifies "survival" as the single most important performance metric in any capital cycle, distinguishing committed professionals from those who only enjoy the boom.
- He advises current investors to identify the "cost of success" (enduring volatility, markdowns, and difficult board meetings) and accept that this suffering is the necessary price for long-term returns.
- The current cycle is viewed as a healthy "flush out" of participants who enjoyed the perks of the previous era (e.g., easy fundraising, frequent mixers) but were not prepared for the hardships of a downturn.
Personal Insights & Book Philosophy
- Housel's latest book, The Same as Ever, is based on the premise that while specific details change, human behavior regarding greed, fear, uncertainty, and optimism remains identical across centuries of history.
- He writes the book as a counter-narrative to financial forecasting, arguing that since predicting the future has a near-zero success rate, one should focus on behavioral constants that are guaranteed to repeat.
- Housel uses AI tools like ChatGPT and Perplexity primarily for basic tasks such as generating synonyms, though he remains skeptical of their ability to replicate his specific writing style or provide high-level strategic feedback.
- Housel is a self-admitted frequent patron of Chipotle, recounting a period in college where he ate there seven days a week due to its affordability, a habit that persists to the current day despite his financial success.
- He concludes that individuals must understand their own personalities; if one is not wired for the "tortured" grind of a founder, attempting to mimic that path will lead to failure, and one should instead seek careers that leverage their natural traits.