Conference Presentation, Panel
New Horizons: The Evolution of Direct Lending and Illiquid Credit
Milken InstituteStaci Warden, Michael Arougheti, Mary Katherine DuBose, Damien Dwin, Nino Fanlo, Terry Harris, Mike Garaghetti, Mary Catherine Dubois
Panelists and Firm Profiles:
- Mike Garagetti (Ares Management): Manages ~$100B AUM; ~$66B in credit, with ~$40B in illiquid credit; spans pre-revenue ventures to quasi-syndicated PE-backed loans.
- Mary Catherine Dubois (Wells Fargo): Head of asset-backed finance; leverages bank balance sheet for senior-level asset-backed financing (65–75% advance rates) in partnership with originators.
- Damien Dwin (Brightwood Capital): Co-founder; serves ~500 family/founder businesses with EBITDA <$50M; raised $1.9B, managing $4B AUM with 50 staff across 4–5 offices.
- Nino Fanlo (SoFi): CFO/President; 5.5-year-old firm with ~$1.9B raised; growing revenue 100% and EBITDA 300%; adds ~20,000 customers monthly.
- Terry Harris (Barings): Manages Global Private Finance; Barings holds >$270B AUM; targets US/EU companies with $10–50M EBITDA and larger APAC opportunities.
Definitions and Market Scope:
- Direct Lending Definition: Generally defined as building local origination capability directly to borrowers, disintermediating banks or agented paper, regardless of asset class.
- Mid-Market Definition: Broadly spans from small family businesses (<$50M EBITDA) to large PE-backed corporations; definitions expand as capital flows and new products emerge.
- Market Evolution: The market has shifted from narrow non-bank lending definitions 20 years ago to a "global addressable market" including real assets (real estate, infrastructure, energy) and cash-flow/asset-based financing.
- Bank Role: Banks like Wells Fargo occupy a symbiotic role, providing senior leverage (50–75% of levered loan dollars) via asset-backed finance with lower regulatory overhead than direct cash-flow lending.
Competitive Dynamics and Differentiation:
- Brightwood's Strategy: Targets a "supply-demand imbalance" for family/founder borrowers who receive inferior treatment compared to PE-backed firms; emphasizes relationship over transaction and uses covenants to navigate distress.
- Ares' PE Strategy: Acknowledges PE sponsors as repeat borrowers with sophisticated management; argues that ignoring PE-owned companies misses 8 of the top 10 private employers.
- SoFi's Retail Focus: Disintermediates banks for "super-prime" consumers; aims to reduce capital, processing, and acquisition costs to improve customer experience and investor returns (analogous to Amazon's platform forces).
- Barings' Risk Mitigation: Emphasizes "buy and hold" illiquidity premiums compensated by 150+ bps over base rates, stemming from lower leverage, tighter covenants, and rigorous on-site underwriting.
Returns and Pricing Dynamics:
- Return Sources: Returns derive from upfront fees (2–3%), floating rate spreads, and illiquidity/complexity premiums; Ares targets ~20% ROE, splitting 50/50 with investors.
- Market Efficiency: Mike Garagetti warns that as markets mature, "relationship premiums" will erode due to increased capital competition between liquid and illiquid credit managers.
- Origin Costs: High origination costs limit rapid scale in lower-middle markets; asset growth is slower than expected despite high demand due to the resource intensity of local relationship building.
- Pricing vs. Value: Damien Dwin argues fees reflect the lack of empathetic partners for family borrowers rather than complexity, noting the broader syndicated market is "covenant free."
Market Health and Valuation:
- Current State: Described as the "best year overall in a decade" with strong demand, fully valued assets, but low fragility; no new downturn observed in the last 5–10 years.
- Credit Quality: Ares sees strong fundamentals but "priced to perfection" with little margin of error; growth rates are deteriorating, signaling a late-cycle environment.
- Loss Rates: SoFi reports 4 bps annual loss rates on student loans, high 100s bps on unsecured personal loans, and zero mortgage losses; Brightwood cites 15+ year operating histories for most borrowers.
- Liquidity Concerns: Terry Harris notes investors are increasingly concerned with asset-liability mismatches and the behavior of capital in potential downturns.
Regulatory Environment:
- Regulatory Rollback: Panelists anticipate simplified regulations for banks, potentially increasing bank ROE by 40–50% (saving 400–500 bps on compliance costs), but not necessarily re-entering the middle-market directly.
- Shadow Banking Risk: Regulatory pressure is shifting toward asset managers (fundraising, sales practices) rather than non-bank lending activities; Basel III and Tier 1 capital requirements remain binding.
- Bank Participation: Banks are unlikely to displace non-bank direct lenders due to cost inefficiencies in true cash-flow leverage loans; they prefer asset-backed structures with higher recovery rates.
- Systemic Stability: The shift of risk from regulated banks to sophisticated investors is viewed as successful; regulators seek transparency and efficiency rather than increased risk-taking.
Forward-Looking Statements:
- Market Maturation: Expect private credit to evolve into a global, efficient asset class where liquidity and illiquidity managers make rational relative value decisions, eroding relationship premiums.
- Rising Rates: Floating rate structures in direct lending (base rate floors) provide protection; demand for assets is expected to remain strong despite a potential creep in leverage.
- Fee Compression: Asset management fees are compressing (2% is dead); investors (pensions, insurers) are demanding lower fees for capital deployment in exchange for double-digit net returns.
- Sponsor Concentration: Managers must diversify away from reliance on single PE sponsors to avoid being "held hostage" and to ensure repeat business stability.
Closing Insights on "Meaningful Life" (Non-financial):
- Damien Dwin: Emphasizes working in growth industries, choosing owners carefully, and being inspired by young, smart colleagues.
- Nino Fanlo: Focuses on passion, dignity, integrity, and prioritizing human relationships over transactions.
- Mary Catherine Dubois: Defines meaning through team dynamics (internal and client) and family.
- Terry Harris: Finds meaning in the tangible impact on employees (e.g., buying homes, sending kids to college) and seeing young people grow.