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Oren Zeev: 50% of Funds Will Go Out of Business & Why GPs Shouldn't Tell LPs Their Strategy

  • Investment Philosophy & Market Dynamics:

    • Oren Ziv operates as a solo GP managing over $1 billion, serving as the largest Limited Partner (LP) in every fund with a 13-14% personal stake and 30% carry.
    • Ziv takes zero management fees, reinvesting 100% of any fees charged into the funds; he is not paid any economics until LPs have returned 100% of their capital.
    • Ziv maintains a 20% capital concentration limit per company, exceeding the industry standard of 10%, believing diversification at the GP level creates no value for LPs.
    • He predicts a market bifurcation where funds must be either massive "platforms" (e.g., Andreessen, Sequoia) or agile "boutiques" (solo GPs), with the "middle" being untenable.
    • Ziv states that 50% of current venture funds are either unable to raise new capital or are stalling due to the difficulty of raising in the current cycle.
  • AI Impact on Investment Strategy:

    • Since 2021, Ziv's primary filter for every investment is determining if a company is a likely "beneficiary" of AI, rather than a "victim" or neutral party.
    • He argues that operationally complex businesses with significant data moats and regulated environments are hardest to disrupt by AI, citing Navan as a 100% beneficiary with zero disruption risk.
    • Ziv predicts AI will drastically improve gross margins for companies like Navan by replacing support labor, moving from ~50% margins toward higher efficiency.
    • Despite the "AI tsunami," Ziv believes the fundamental math of venture compounding remains unchanged; doubling revenue annually yields the same 32x growth over five years regardless of AI.
    • He warns that "only growth" is a dangerous metric, citing circular deals (buying each other's products to inflate revenue) as unsustainable practices driven by growth obsession.
  • Market Cycle & Valuation Trends:

    • Ziv admits to overpaying by 3-4x in the 2021 market peak, resulting in a "mediocre" Fund 11 that will likely not lose money but will not achieve top-quartile returns.
    • He notes that Series A rounds are currently a poor entry point due to excessive pricing (150x-200x ARR) for minimal risk reduction or product-market fit validation.
    • Ziv advises founders to accept preemptive capital rounds at high valuations but to behave as if they have no cash, avoiding burn based on boardroom pressure rather than market signals.
    • He predicts a tsunami of liquidity from major IPOs (SpaceX, Stripe, Databricks) in 2026-2027, which will likely reshape the market and LP behaviors.
  • Governance & LP Alignment:

    • Ziv identifies misalignment in large firms where management fees (often 2% annually) provide more risk-free income than carry in the early years, incentivizing managers to prioritize fundraising ability over long-term value.
    • He notes that individual partners in large firms may prioritize personal career safety over fund longevity, leading to reluctance to admit failure or kill projects.
    • Ziv advocates for radical transparency in reporting valuations, suggesting that GPs with secure fundraising ability have less motivation to inflate numbers than those struggling to raise.
    • He believes LPs should focus more on the "character" and motivation of the GP rather than just methodology, as conservative reporting is correlated with fund stability.
  • Founder Dynamics & Personal Decisions:

    • Ziv claims most founders seek advice from him specifically because he offers a "safe environment" with no intent to judge or force direction, provided they don't need to convince him.
    • He rejects the notion that founders no longer want advice, attributing that view to poor delivery styles (e.g., judgmental or "know-it-all" approaches) rather than a fundamental shift in founder sentiment.
    • Ziv describes his biggest missed opportunity as failing to invest in OpenAI due to a clerical error (wrong email address used by Asaf), though he admits the deal likely would have failed due to competitive dynamics.
    • He acknowledges missing Facebook in his early career due to partnership veto but cites Audible as a past "miss" where he was unable to take the company private after it went public.
    • Ziv expresses strong optimism that AI is the "biggest change ever in human history," creating opportunities to build massive value despite risks of labor displacement and political unrest.
  • Specific Investment Examples & Outcomes:

    • Navan: Ziv holds a concentrated position, citing its operational complexity and data moat as protection against AI disruption; he is confident it will be a massive beneficiary.
    • Descartes AI: Ziv invested $1.5M for 5% ownership via an uncapped SAFE (later capped) after founders offered to dilute existing investors; he maintained this position as the company became profitable and only accepted Sequoia/Benchmark capital for branding.
    • PropTech Loss: Ziv lost capital on a prop-tech investment that grew from $2M to $30M but failed when interest rates spiked faster than his stress models predicted; he attributes this to luck and the difficulty of predicting "worst-case" scenarios.
    • Secondaries: Ziv generally refuses to sell positions early via secondary markets unless necessary for fundraising, believing that buyers will only pay if they expect 2-3x returns, creating a discount Ziv is unwilling to accept.