Conference Presentation, Panel
Restarting the Economic Engine
Milken InstituteErik Schatzker, Todd Boehly, Charles W. Scharf, Kerry Healey, David Hunt, Charlie Scharf
Economic Recovery Timeline and Expectations:
- David Hunt (PGM) warns against a V-shaped rebound, forecasting a "slow road back" likely lasting two years due to permanent changes in consumer behavior (social distancing, mask-wearing).
- Charlie Scharf (Wells Fargo) anticipates unemployment peaking in Q2-Q3 with a recovery starting in Q4, though unemployment will remain double pre-crisis levels for an extended period.
- Kerry Healy (Milken Institute) emphasizes that the crisis has exposed deep disparities, noting 41% of Black-owned small businesses closed due to a lack of capital access.
Public Health and Business Trade-offs:
- Panelists agree there is no "acceptable" trade-off between lives and the economy, but rather a need to balance preservation of life with economic preservation via containment and testing.
- Kerry Healy highlights that the initial CARES Act/PPP implementation failed minority communities, leading to high closure rates among underbanked small businesses.
- David Hunt criticizes reliance on prescriptive government shutdowns, arguing instead for individual behavioral compliance (e.g., mask-wearing in Japan) as the more effective control mechanism.
- Todd Boley (Eldridge) notes a "9 to 12 month" period of PTSD for the economy, with recovery dependent on successful on-site testing and contact tracing rather than media narratives.
- Charlie Scharf states that strict protocols (masks, social distancing, drive-throughs) allowed Wells Fargo to keep 75% of branches open and customers safe without acting as a "science experiment."
Financial Sector Response and Capital Deployment:
- Wells Fargo advanced approximately $80 billion in credit in March alone; over 50% of these loans were under $25,000, with 80% going to businesses with fewer than 10 employees.
- Todd Boley observes that investment-grade companies have been able to borrow cheaper than pre-pandemic, effectively creating a "fortress" on balance sheets, while high-yield and leveraged loan markets required later intervention.
- The SPAC market is described as a new capital vehicle allowing for liquidity in private markets, with Boley citing DraftKings and Ackman's $3-$6 billion SPAC as examples of institutional capital deployment.
- David Hunt anticipates a major infrastructure initiative (power grid, broadband) is necessary to generate short-term jobs, estimating a need for another $2 trillion in fiscal aid similar to the initial $2 trillion authorized.
Inequality and Systemic Resilience:
- Kerry Healy calls for a "round two" of fiscal support specifically targeting minority-owned depository institutions to address "financial deserts," noting only 1% of venture capital goes to Black entrepreneurs and 2% to women-led ventures.
- David Hunt argues the private credit market offers greater system resilience than 2008 by allowing losses to be absorbed by private equity managers rather than banking balance sheets.
- Charlie Scharf cautions against broad-brush regulatory limits on leverage or inventory, advocating instead for industry-specific solutions rather than "one solution to fit a whole series of things."
- Todd Boley suggests capital markets should be compensated for providing "insurance" against future shocks, proposing lease structures that automatically defer payments based on revenue drops.
Policy and Regulation:
- David Hunt advocates for revamping antitrust laws to foster innovation rather than increasing clamping on big companies, which he believes stifles productivity.
- Kerry Healy argues that the US federalist system allows for better experimentation across states (unlike the UK's centralized approach) to manage localized pandemic conditions.
- Charlie Scharf urges bipartisan political cooperation for targeted assistance before current programs expire, warning that many businesses are still relying on bridges that are "time-bound."
- Panelists collectively agree that future economic stability requires integrating digital infrastructure (FinTech) to lower the cost of capital distribution, contrasting the $10 billion cost of the current CARES Act administration with potential lower-tech alternatives.