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Interview

Sherry Turkle, MIT Professor and Author of "The Empathy Diaries"

  • Childhood Trauma and Family Secrets

    • Sherry Turkle's biological father, Charlie Zimmerman, left when she was one year old; his name was banned from family discourse.
    • Discovery of her full name, "Sherry Zimmerman," in a hidden book revealed a "hidden life of secrets" within the Bonowitz clan.
    • This erasure of truth instilled a "sociological mentality," driving Turkle to question surface narratives and seek underlying realities in all situations.
    • The family secret created a "corrosive effect" that cemented her lifelong commitment to truth.
  • Transformative Empathy and Self-Discovery

    • At Harvard, an anonymous peer intervened regarding Turkle's anxiety-driven social avoidance (entering dorms solely to get change for a coke machine).
    • The peer modeled empathic engagement by asking questions rather than assuming Turkle's motives or status, stating, "I don't know who you are. Tell me a little about yourself."
    • This interaction highlighted Turkle's realization that she had "heard too little of life" and craved authentic storytelling.
    • Turkle defines leadership empathy not as "knowing" another's experience, but as asking, "What has your pandemic been like?" and remaining open to differing lived realities.
    • Forward-looking definition of empathy: It requires a two-part commitment: (1) listening without assumptions and (2) committing to action based on what is heard, extending beyond the initial "kumbaya moment."
  • Early Computer Culture and Academic Resistance

    • In the late 1970s and early 1980s, Turkle observed users treating early personal computers (e.g., Apple II) as "intimate machines" and "Rorschach tests."
    • Users projected their minds onto computers, creating what Turkle termed a "second self" to view themselves differently.
    • Engineering colleagues at MIT dismissed her research as a "waste of time," asserting strictly that "the computer is just a tool."
    • Turkle persisted in her research on the emotional and psychic dimensions of technology despite warnings that such work would prevent her from tenure.
    • Historical consensus has since validated her thesis: computers are now recognized as the "emotional, kind of psychic center of our lives."
  • Reframing Solitude During the Pandemic

    • Turkle experienced acute anxiety and disorientation during the early pandemic, shifting from a health-conscious "soul cycle" routine to fear of severe illness (intubation) due to her age (65+).
    • Recovery required external support; her daughter's presence provided the grounding necessary to reorient Turkle's mindset.
    • Following her daughter's departure, Turkle demonstrated that a "capacity for solitude" does not imply immunity to trauma, but rather the inner ability to cope and self-recenter.
  • Professional Philosophy and Career Advice

    • Academic sociologist Barrington Moore advised Turkle to "study what you love," reasoning that women faced career barriers in academia.
    • Turkle interprets this advice as maximizing the overlap between one's job and personal passion.
    • She notes that loving the work itself provides resilience against professional failure, as the intrinsic value of the project remains even when external reception is poor.