Interview, Fireside Chat
Shervin Pishevar: What Really Happened in the Firing of Travis Kalanick | E1245
The Uber Investment and Early Growth
- Shervin Pishevar invested in Uber in August 2011 through Menlo Ventures, initially leading a $290 million Series B round after flying to Dublin to meet Travis Kalanick.
- Pishevar identified the true vision of Uber as replacing car ownership rather than merely digitizing taxi services, recognizing a Total Addressable Market (TAM) in the trillions.
- The initial investment valuation was $290 million, which grew to a $7 billion position for Menlo Ventures at current market prices.
- Pishevar later personally invested $1.4 billion of his own capital into Uber by converting all his Facebook shares at a price of effectively 33 cents per share.
- The investment strategy involved innovative financial structuring, including the use of Waverly Loans to facilitate secondary purchases and tax-free liquidity for founders.
- Pishevar recruited key executives, including David Bonderman to the board and Emile Michael as Chief Business Officer, who orchestrated a $15 billion raise that increased Uber's valuation from $10 billion to $17 billion in one year.
- The company expanded globally using a playbook that involved recruiting celebrities like Edward Norton and Olivia Munn to serve as "Rider One" or "Rider Zero" in new markets.
- Pishevar raised capital for Uber China through a joint venture with Baidu, investing $50 million initially and later $50 million into Didi following a merger.
The Departure of Founders and "The Uber War"
- Pishevar asserts that if Travis Kalanick and Emile Michael had remained, Uber would have become a trillion-dollar company by now, surpassing Tesla's trajectory.
- The conflict began when Benchmark partner Bill Gurley pressured Uber to go public; when Kalanick ignored him, Gurley allegedly hired private investigators and held weekly meetings to orchestrate Kalanick's removal starting in January 2017.
- Following Susan Fowler's exposé on workplace culture, Gurley advised hiring former Attorney General Eric Holder to lead an independent investigation, which Pishevar viewed as a trap that increased Uber's vulnerability.
- In the week Kalanick lost his mother in a boating accident, five early investors including Benchmark issued a letter demanding he resign as CEO, leveraging his grief to force his removal.
- Pishevar countersued Benchmark in Delaware, winning a ruling that protected Kalanick's three board seats, though Kalanick had already resigned.
- Following the legal victory, a firm called Fusion GPS distributed a fabricated London police report against Pishevar to Fast Company, accusing him of serious crimes he did not commit.
- Pishevar filed seven Section 1782 lawsuits to force discovery on the political operatives behind the smear campaign, successfully getting a judge to order Fusion GPS to reveal their client.
- Pishevar publicly offered to buy Benchmark's stake in Uber to prevent their ouster, a move the investors rejected in favor of securing immediate liquidity and board control.
- The ousting of Kalanick and Michael is described as a "critical mistake" that resulted in massive value destruction, estimated at $100 billion in lost potential for Benchmark LPs.
Reflections on Venture Capital and Future Trends
- Pishevar characterizes the 2017–2021 period in venture capital as a "drunken period" marked by political operatives, private equity downstreaming, and inflated valuations for companies like WeWork.
- He predicts the traditional venture capital model is dead, replaced by founders self-funding or utilizing new mechanisms like tokenization to democratize early-stage investing.
- Pishevar expects a shift in the market under the Trump administration, citing the influx of tech leaders into Washington D.C. and the potential for privatizing government entities like the Postal Service and Amtrak.
- He holds a bullish long-term view on Artificial Intelligence and Quantum Computing, predicting a merger of the two fields that will solve complex problems like cancer and climate change within 10 years.
- Pishevar forecasts that within 20 years, humanity will achieve a "Cambrian explosion" of superintelligence, extending human life expectancy to over 150 years and preventing death from disease.
- He advocates for the "Network State" movement, supporting the creation of new city-states and nations that allow citizens to opt-in via ownership and technology rather than geography.
- Pishevar cites missed investments in Snapchat and Pinterest as major regrets, attributing the Pinterest miss to failing to meet the founder in person.
Personal Anecdotes and Final Insights
- Pishevar's mother, a former teacher in Iran, is credited as his first angel investor for buying his first computer and secretly funding his education.
- He identifies his loyalty as a primary trait that drove his success but also caused him significant pain during the Uber conflict, noting the tragic loss of long-term friendships.
- Pishevar believes the current generation of founders (e.g., Elon Musk, Sam Altman) represents "1,000x humans" with intelligence far beyond typical standards.
- He anticipates that the next 25 years will eclipse all previous historical periods in terms of technological impact and societal transformation.