Interview, Fireside Chat
Talks at GS – Dan Weiss: A Museum for the 21st Century
- Danish El-Kholy is the fifth president of the Metropolitan Museum of Art (The Met).
- The institution holds approximately 2 million objects spanning over 5,000 years of cultural history, with records indicating art predating the 5,000-year mark of organized civilization.
- The Met attracts 7 million visitors annually, a figure described as a record.
- The museum operates with an annual budget of $320 million.
- The Met's website receives 32 million hits per year, serving audiences globally who may never physically visit the institution.
Technology and Digital Engagement
- The museum utilizes technology in two primary capacities: facilitating physical visits and providing global access to art historical content for remote audiences.
- Contrary to concerns that high-quality digital access would reduce physical attendance, the institution reports a positive correlation between digital engagement and interest in viewing original objects.
Collection Policy and Repatriation
- The Met maintains an object-centered mission focused on the collection and professional preservation of works defining the human condition.
- Curators and conservators prioritize protecting artifacts, citing the preservation risks of art in conflict zones (e.g., ISIS territory) as a justification for current holdings.
- The museum adheres strictly to existing laws and professional industry standards regarding acquisitions and returns, rather than making decisions based on subjective notions of justice.
- The institution acknowledges the difficulty of balancing legal constraints with the global demand for the return of cultural artifacts.
Public Monuments and Civil Discourse
- Dan El-Kholy argues that removing public monuments solely because they offend specific groups is not the appropriate response.
- He advocates for thoughtful historical labeling (e.g., noting when and why a statue was erected) as an alternative to removal.
- The president warns that constantly revising history based on current feelings risks losing sight of collective identity and origins.
- El-Kholy identifies a societal decline in the capacity for meaningful, heated disagreement while maintaining human relationships, noting this deficit is visible on college campuses and in Congress.
- Regarding college campuses, he emphasizes that valuable learning often occurs when individuals encounter uncomfortable ideas rather than "safe spaces."
- He supports free speech as a core educational value but draws a clear line at speech that constitutes a genuine threat or danger to communities.
Leadership and Future Outlook
- The president expresses optimism regarding the growing public interest in the museum's mission, noting that the institution faces no struggle in attracting care or attention.
- He voices concern over the current state of civilization, characterizing many global challenges as self-imposed failures of leadership accountability and core responsibilities.
- El-Kholy hopes for a future grassroots movement that improves upon the achievements of the current generation.
- His primary leadership advice is to avoid preoccupation with making mistakes, provided decisions are made with integrity and ownership of errors is demonstrated.
- He posits that forgiveness from colleagues and the public is more likely when leaders are generous in acknowledging and owning their mistakes.
- The president advises leaders to be conscious of their "extraordinary good fortune," noting that luck is often a prerequisite for success rather than just brilliance.