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Interview, Fireside Chat

Talks at GS – Dan Weiss: A Museum for the 21st Century

  • Danish El-Kholy is the fifth president of the Metropolitan Museum of Art (The Met).
  • The institution holds approximately 2 million objects spanning over 5,000 years of cultural history, with records indicating art predating the 5,000-year mark of organized civilization.
  • The Met attracts 7 million visitors annually, a figure described as a record.
  • The museum operates with an annual budget of $320 million.
  • The Met's website receives 32 million hits per year, serving audiences globally who may never physically visit the institution.

Technology and Digital Engagement

  • The museum utilizes technology in two primary capacities: facilitating physical visits and providing global access to art historical content for remote audiences.
  • Contrary to concerns that high-quality digital access would reduce physical attendance, the institution reports a positive correlation between digital engagement and interest in viewing original objects.

Collection Policy and Repatriation

  • The Met maintains an object-centered mission focused on the collection and professional preservation of works defining the human condition.
  • Curators and conservators prioritize protecting artifacts, citing the preservation risks of art in conflict zones (e.g., ISIS territory) as a justification for current holdings.
  • The museum adheres strictly to existing laws and professional industry standards regarding acquisitions and returns, rather than making decisions based on subjective notions of justice.
  • The institution acknowledges the difficulty of balancing legal constraints with the global demand for the return of cultural artifacts.

Public Monuments and Civil Discourse

  • Dan El-Kholy argues that removing public monuments solely because they offend specific groups is not the appropriate response.
  • He advocates for thoughtful historical labeling (e.g., noting when and why a statue was erected) as an alternative to removal.
  • The president warns that constantly revising history based on current feelings risks losing sight of collective identity and origins.
  • El-Kholy identifies a societal decline in the capacity for meaningful, heated disagreement while maintaining human relationships, noting this deficit is visible on college campuses and in Congress.
  • Regarding college campuses, he emphasizes that valuable learning often occurs when individuals encounter uncomfortable ideas rather than "safe spaces."
  • He supports free speech as a core educational value but draws a clear line at speech that constitutes a genuine threat or danger to communities.

Leadership and Future Outlook

  • The president expresses optimism regarding the growing public interest in the museum's mission, noting that the institution faces no struggle in attracting care or attention.
  • He voices concern over the current state of civilization, characterizing many global challenges as self-imposed failures of leadership accountability and core responsibilities.
  • El-Kholy hopes for a future grassroots movement that improves upon the achievements of the current generation.
  • His primary leadership advice is to avoid preoccupation with making mistakes, provided decisions are made with integrity and ownership of errors is demonstrated.
  • He posits that forgiveness from colleagues and the public is more likely when leaders are generous in acknowledging and owning their mistakes.
  • The president advises leaders to be conscious of their "extraordinary good fortune," noting that luck is often a prerequisite for success rather than just brilliance.