Interview
The Surprising & Unbelievable Dark Side Of Open Relationships: Aubrey Marcus | E242
Business Origins and Growth
- Onnit sold out its first product, Alpha Brain, within 12 hours of launch, scaling from zero to $60 million in annual revenue over four years.
- The company was named one of the Inc. 500's fastest-growing companies for four consecutive years following the Alpha Brain launch.
- In 2021, Onnit was acquired by Unilever, providing a liquidity event for Aubrey Marcus and his early equity partners.
- Initial capitalization involved $50,000 from a family friend and $60,000 from skier Bodhi Miller, totaling $110,000 in seed funding.
- The Alpha Brain formula was developed based on nutraceutical knowledge from Marcus's stepmother, who worked with NBA teams, and the product was initially formulated too strong before being dialed down.
- Marcus utilized net-30 credit terms to manufacture the first batch of Alpha Brain, selling through two inventory orders before the initial payment was due.
- The company faced a "cashpocalypse" where an anticipated investment failed, leaving the business with zero cash in the bank and unable to pay vendors; the CFO resigned, but the CEO guided them through via extended payment terms.
- Following the sale, Marcus intends to transition from an operational CEO role to a visionary owner role, guiding future brands while delegating execution to competent operators.
- Marcus plans to return to the wellness space with new brands, leveraging his acquired capital to fund projects aligned with his mission "for the good of all" (para el bien de todos).
Personal History and Psychedelic Exploration
- Marcus's first significant psychedelic experience occurred at age 18 after high school, where he felt a disintegration of the body and a connection to a "soul" or consciousness, sparking his interest in psychonautics.
- He attributes his understanding of "greatness" and the drive to be "big" to his parents: a professional tennis player mother and a commodities trading pioneer father.
- His parents separated when he was two, resulting in a household with four parental figures (two biological, two step-parents) who modeled different archetypes of masculinity, including intellectual philosophy and physical "bear energy."
- A pivotal emotional breakthrough occurred around 2013–2014 when Marcus realized he was replicating his father's pattern of flying into fits of rage after snapping at a customer service employee during a video shoot.
- Marcus decided to stop the "lineage transmission" of rage after the incident, realizing he could not continue the cycle of hurting others to prove himself.
- He used psychedelic medicine journeys, specifically citing the influence of his father's journey, as a primary tool to heal ancestral trauma and "clean up the rust" before fathering his son, Huxley.
- Marcus describes his current approach to self-work as "psychonautics," the exploration of the inner cosmos using tools like breathwork, sweat lodges, and plant medicines to achieve clarity.
Relationship Dynamics and Polyamory
- Marcus experimented with polyamory during an eight-year relationship with his partner Whitney, after a previous monogamous relationship of 18 months.
- He initially introduced polyamory to Whitney as a solution to his desire for multiple partners, offering her equal freedom, but later admitted he could not emotionally handle her seeing other lovers.
- The experience revealed to Marcus that he could not compete with other partners by trying to be "better" at their specific traits, learning instead to be his own best version.
- He identifies his current partner, Violana, as a "queen" and "perfect complement," describing a relationship based on total alignment and the absence of compromise, differing from the "learn to compromise" narrative of traditional marriages.
- Marcus and Violana utilize specific conflict resolution tools, including a "parlay" moment to pause escalation and a "bedrock" concept to return to the fundamental truth of their love during disputes.
- He emphasizes "radical ownership" of his actions in relationships to prevent the accumulation of resentment, which he identifies as the primary destroyer of love.
- Marcus admits he is still "stuck" in a reliance on stimulants (caffeine, nicotine) and sleep medications, acknowledging the need to reset his neurochemistry by removing obligations to allow a holistic mindset shift.
Challenges, Philosophy, and Future Outlook
- A major crisis occurred in 2013–2014 when Onnit suffered a data security breach; Marcus chose transparency, emailing customers to admit fault and offer discounts, which ultimately strengthened customer trust.
- Marcus advises entrepreneurs to "see it" with clear eyes, understanding both the vision of success and the reality of the competitive landscape before committing resources.
- He advocates for "seeing accurately" rather than relying on delusion, noting that seeing the difficulty of the market is necessary to find a way to elevate above it.
- Marcus is currently building a community organization called "Fit for Service" which utilizes non-plant-based psychedelic technologies (breathwork, circling, sweat lodges) to facilitate healing and connection.
- Fit for Service operates on a donation model despite financial losses, aiming to create a "tribe" where participants form deep bonds through shared initiatory experiences.
- Regarding forgiveness, Marcus states he has not yet achieved "absolute forgiveness" for global systems of "empire" (government, media, Big Pharma collusion) until a collective "fellowship" of allies crystallizes.
- Marcus notes that his ability to resolve conflicts has improved over time, shortening from days or months to mere hours or minutes due to increased awareness and a willingness to apologize.
- He credits the "stallion" phase of his younger life—running wild and seeking validation—to being a necessary precursor to the stability required for his current deep relationship with Violana.
- Marcus plans to continue producing content, including books and documentaries, while delegating the operational "grind" of business to other leaders.