Conference Presentation, Panel, Fireside Chat
U.S. Overview: Big Markets, Big Politics
Milken InstitutePhilippa Thomas, Jonathan Blair, Ross DeVol, Tony Fratto, Steve Krouskos, William Lee, Trevor Custle, John Jones
Panel Consensus on Economic Outlook:
- Panelists rated the current U.S. economy between an 8 and 10 out of 10.
- Bill Lee (Milken Institute) noted the recovery has moved beyond consumer-led growth to an investment pickup, though insufficient to solve income inequality.
- Tony Fratto (Hamilton Place Strategies) described a paradox where macroeconomic indicators are near 10, yet public trust in institutions remains low.
- Steve Kruskos (EY) cited a potential 4% GDP growth next year driven by tax reform and a 40% reduction in regulatory pages since 2017.
- Ross Rostov (Walton Fellow) predicted a sustainable higher growth rate, noting equipment investment and ITC orders have surged in the last six months.
- Jonathan Blair (Womble Bond Dickinson) rated the UK-US business environment positively despite Brexit, citing the merger as a facilitator for transatlantic trade.
Fiscal and Tax Policy Developments:
- The Senate passed a tax bill with a reconciliation process expected to inject $1.5 trillion into the economy.
- Debate on Impact:
- Panelists view the corporate tax cuts as a long-term structural adjustment to make the U.S. globally competitive, rather than a short-term stimulus.
- Steve Kruskos warned that if tax cuts fail to spur productive investment, firms may return cash to shareholders, leading to speculative rather than productive asset allocation.
- Tony Fratto emphasized that the individual deduction expansion was politically necessary to secure passage, given the saturation of lower-quintile tax cuts.
- R&D Concerns:
- Bill Lee highlighted a risk that the removal of the alternative minimum corporate tax in the Senate bill could undermine R&D tax credits, a discrepancy expected during House-Senate reconciliation.
- Ross Rostov argued that innovation is now "table stakes" and that government selection of winners often fails, preferring market-driven capital allocation.
Investment Trends and Capital Structures:
- Investment Shift:
- Bill Lee noted capital investment is at its slowest pace in post-WWII history, though a recent pickup in equipment, software, and IP has occurred.
- Steve Kruskos observed a decline in "mega-deal" M&A activity, with a rise in transactions valued between $500 million and $1 billion.
- Jonathan Blair reported significant growth in UK-US cross-border activity and the opening of three new US offices following the firm's merger.
- Private Equity and Innovation:
- Jonathan Blair noted a shift toward collaboration between large and small firms, with corporations establishing venture capital arms.
- Bill Lee warned that the "black box" nature of private equity may incentivize firms to go private, reducing market transparency.
- Ross Rostov identified a decline in new business formation rates relative to the early 2000s, attributing it to a lack of "patient capital."
- Regulatory Environment:
- Steve Kruskos estimated the cost of regulation to businesses is three times the tax cost, suggesting deregulation could yield significant savings.
- Bill Lee defined "multi-factor productivity" as the mix of talent, capital, and technology, arguing a better regulatory environment is the "secret sauce" to revive it.
- Investment Shift:
Trade, Geopolitics, and Global Integration:
- Brexit:
- Jonathan Blair described Brexit as a "mixed blessing" that initially caused tension but ultimately accelerated UK-US commercial alignment.
- Ross Rostov noted the stall of the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP) due to Brexit uncertainty.
- North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA):
- Steve Kruskos and Ross Rostov predicted "cooler heads will prevail," anticipating renegotiation rather than withdrawal.
- Ross Rostov linked anti-trade sentiment in the Rust Belt to the perceived inequality caused by free trade agreements, motivating his focus on the American heartland.
- China and CFIUS:
- Steve Kruskos reported a dramatic slowdown in Chinese outbound FDI to the U.S., with the average transaction size dropping to $100 million.
- Tony Fratto highlighted the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS) blocking or delaying high-profile transactions (e.g., Ocean Wide Genworth) and the difficulty of completing major acquisitions today compared to the Lenovo-IBM deal of the past.
- Steve Kruskos argued that a complete halt in Chinese investment would be unsustainable, as China is projected to become the world's largest economy by 2030.
- Brexit:
Social and Labor Market Dynamics:
- Inequality:
- Bill Lee and Ross Rostov agreed that while the economy is recovering, wage growth has not kept pace with productivity, fueling social unrest.
- Tony Fratto noted that blue-collar workers in the Midwest felt Trump was "fighting for them," even if they doubted the efficacy of his proposed solutions.
- Labor Market Tightness:
- Ross Rostov observed the tightening labor market is generating the first significant wage gains in blue-collar professions.
- Tony Fratto identified non-economic barriers to employment, specifically noting that the inability to pass drug tests is a major hurdle for hiring in the Midwest.
- Entrepreneurship:
- Ross Rostov expressed concern that the rate of new company formation has fallen significantly, though recent confidence in the "rise of the rest" initiatives suggests a potential shift.
- Inequality:
Market Stability and Forward-Looking Risks:
- Asset Prices:
- Steve Kruskos cautioned that asset prices are incredibly high due to distorted global monetary policy (near-zero/negative interest rates), creating a risk of misallocation.
- Bill Lee disagreed with the bubble narrative, asserting that earnings fundamentals are strong and the productivity of the "fourth industrial revolution" is still being measured.
- Tony Fratto acknowledged the risk, stating the economy is "dancing on a tightrope" with a looser fiscal stance coinciding with a tightening monetary cycle.
- Monetary Policy Uncertainty:
- Steve Kruskos criticized the lack of a clear framework for monetary policy normalization, describing current Fed communication as a "seat-at-the-pants approach."
- Tony Fratto predicted the U.S. might "land on its feet" by sheer luck despite the difficulty of timing the exit from quantitative easing.
- Asset Prices:
Q&A Specifics:
- Audience members questioned the gap between the optimistic economic scores and the outlook for blue-collar workers; panelists acknowledged the disconnect but cited labor market tightness as a corrective force.
- A question regarding public market overvaluation was met with divergence: Kruskos warned of distortions, while Lee argued for the strength of underlying earnings.