Conference Presentation, Panel
What's Driving the Asset Management Industry Today?
Milken InstituteKaren Tso, Michael Freno, Michele Gesualdi, Rick Lacaille, Gregory Williamson, Greg Williamson, Rick Lakai
Passive Investing Trends and Market Structure
- 90% of daily equity flows in the U.S. are passive (including leverage and turnover).
- Michael Frino argues active management retains merit in developing markets, below-investment-grade credit, and illiquid sectors where alpha generation is still possible.
- Michele Gesualdi posits that passive investing acts as a market correction, replacing substandard active managers and potentially polarizing the industry into passive and alternative strategies (projected to reach 50% of global assets).
- Rick Lakai warns that a shift toward passive investing reduces the capital available to bet against market downturns, potentially creating an "autopilot" selling mechanism during corrections that lacks the depth of 10 years prior.
- Greg Williamson contends passive flows reflect central bank reinflation (beta is cheap) rather than driving the market, suggesting a return to active management will occur when inflation rises or rate cycles shift.
Market Outlook and Economic Drivers
- The panel maintains a positive outlook for a bull market extending 18 to 24 months, supported by $300 billion monthly additions to central bank balance sheets.
- Inflation remains the primary macroeconomic variable capable of disrupting global coordinated growth and forcing aggressive central bank action.
- The Federal Reserve is expected to pause significant rate hikes in 2018 to avoid flattening the 2-to-10 and 10-to-30 yield curves, which would damage U.S. economic development.
- The industry anticipates a regime change in global liquidity as central banks move to remove accommodation, contrasting with the $15 trillion previously injected into asset classes.
- Geopolitical risks identified include Brexit uncertainties and potential political instability in Italy, though the latter may result in a "status quo" of frequent government changes without major policy shifts.
Technology, AI, and Industry Disruption
- Blockchain and distributed ledger technology are viewed as tools to improve back/middle-office efficiency, reduce payments friction, and increase transparency for investors regarding portfolio holdings.
- AI and machine learning are expected to disintermediate traditional roles, including custodians (potentially replaced by entities like Amazon Finance) and consultants within the next 5–10 years.
- The industry faces a bifurcation where only top-tier quant firms or niche players will survive; the "middle" managers risk being squeezed out unless they adopt technology or shift to illiquid/alternative strategies.
- AI algorithms do not converge on a single outcome because they rely on distinct datasets and training parameters, allowing for varied investment strategies rather than a new form of passive indexing.
- The panel predicts a shift from public to private markets, driven by a shortage of public IPOs, higher valuations in private assets, and the rise of evergreen funds that prioritize long-term holding.
Fee Structures and Alpha Generation
- Greg Williamson argues the standard performance fee for active managers should return to a 20% share of returns (carried interest), down from the current 30–35% levels seen in hedge funds.
- Michele Gesualdi cites Norges Bank as a model for fee structures, utilizing low management fees combined with high performance fees, a model she deems sustainable.
- Rick Lakai notes that beta is becoming a near-free commodity (e.g., S&P 500 exposure <1 basis point), meaning investors will only pay for scarce alpha.
- The consensus suggests that active managers must demonstrate net alpha after fees to justify their existence, as the market is increasingly driven by cost efficiency and factor-based strategies.
Cryptocurrencies and Regulation
- The panel distinguishes between Bitcoin (viewed as a speculative asset with valuation challenges) and blockchain technology (seen as a transformative infrastructure tool).
- Greg Williamson highlights the fundamental incompatibility of Bitcoin as a deflationary asset with the monetary needs of modern economies backed by debt.
- Michele Gesualdi notes that while Bitcoin is difficult to value, it represents a new asset class suitable for indexing once regulatory hurdles regarding money laundering and transparency are addressed.
- No panelist announced immediate plans to launch Bitcoin investment products for clients, citing current regulatory and structural uncertainties.
Regional Focus: China and Asia
- Chinese institutional investors (e.g., sovereign wealth funds) are described as sophisticated in risk management, AI adoption, and portfolio construction, often surpassing Western peers in private equity.
- Regulatory changes in China are expected to shift the purpose of finance toward fueling the real economy, potentially altering fee structures and asset allocation strategies.
- The "1 in 30" fee model (1 basis point fixed, 30% of profits) was debated; while deemed viable for some, many panelists view it as too expensive compared to a "zero fixed, 20% profit" structure.
Q&A Highlights
- AI Due Diligence: Greg Williamson suggests investors must hedge AI strategies with downside protection due to the "black box" nature of algorithms and inability to explain marginal risk contributions.
- Private Tech Liquidity: Michele Gesualdi emphasizes that in the VC space, success relies on human relationships and network access rather than capital alone, as deals are allocated to the most connected firms.
- IPO Pipeline: The lack of tech IPOs is attributed to high private valuations and the desire of founders to remain private as long as capital is available and regulatory burdens are lower.