Interview
Why investors are leaning into alternatives: Apollo’s Marc Rowan
Apollo Global Management Asset Composition:
- Apollo is a publicly traded holding company with approximately $550 billion in total assets under management (AUM) at year-end.
- The portfolio is divided into three distinct segments:
- $400 billion in credit, predominantly investment grade (alternative fixed income).
- $75 billion in equity, characterized as hybrid risk with mid-teens returns.
- $75 million (noted as $75 million in transcript, likely a typo for $75 billion based on context) in private equity, representing the firm's historic core.
- Athene, the retirement services subsidiary, holds $330 billion in assets and is the world's largest retirement services business by AUM.
Strategic Integration and Mergers:
- The full 100% merger between Apollo and Athene achieved complete alignment of interests, transitioning from a 35% stake to unified ownership.
- Athene generates $50 billion in organic new business annually, surpassing major competitors like MetLife, Prudential, and Allianz to become the #1 annuity underwriter in the U.S.
- The merger was facilitated by a decade of prior coexistence, resulting in seamless cultural integration and minimal operational friction.
Investment Philosophy and Market Trends:
- Apollo defines "alternatives" broadly as any asset class offering excess return per unit of risk compared to public markets, spanning from investment grade credit to equity.
- The firm forecasts that alternative investments could constitute up to 50% of investor portfolios over a five-to-seven-year horizon.
- Growth in the investment-grade alternative credit business is expected to double within five years, whereas private equity is viewed as a mature business that will grow but lacks high-growth scalability.
- Average private equity investment size at Apollo is $750 million, representing pure equity risk at the bottom of a levered capital structure.
Capital Markets and Liquidity Shifts:
- The post-2008 era of $8 trillion in global liquidity is deemed non-representative; current market conditions are viewed as returning to a "normal" state of lower liquidity.
- Dealer capital in markets has not increased since 2008 despite market size tripling, leading to reduced liquidity in public markets and increased liquidity in private markets.
- Banks now supply less than 20% of debt capital to U.S. businesses and consumers, with institutional investors (via firms like Apollo) supplying over 80%.
- Alpha generation in publicly traded fixed income is considered largely unavailable due to dominance by indexed products (ETFs, open-ended funds) and correlated trading.
Operational Goals and Culture:
- Apollo aims to reach $1 trillion in AUM by 2026, a goal CEO Mark Rowan notes is already half-achieved.
- For 2023, the firm's strategy focuses on executing existing initiatives rather than pursuing new acquisitions ("no new toys").
- Three core initiatives launched in 2022 are currently underway:
- Expansion of the high net worth business.
- Scaling capacity for origination of investment grade alternative credit.
- Development of the Apollo Capital Solutions business.
- The firm added 400 employees annually for the past three years, reaching a total of 2,600 in asset management.
Leadership and Career Insights:
- Rowan identifies "momentum" as the critical factor for organizational success; a company with momentum can overcome any challenge, while one without it treats every challenge as an obstacle.
- Culture investment focuses on creating "judgment" by retaining talent for entire careers, fostering a partnership model, and encouraging intellectual insubordination.
- Rowan attributes his career trajectory to his mentorship under Mike Milken, who challenged him daily with questions designed to force deep thinking and analogy making.
Philanthropy and Personal Interests:
- Rowan supports a philanthropic initiative in Israel operating 44 schools with nearly 20,000 students and 4,000 teachers, applying business principles to improve educational outcomes in peripheral communities.
- His personal hobbies include mountain biking (rated level 8) and architectural design, having designed and built houses, restaurants, cottages, and ships.
- His core life advice, passed to his children, is "don't be defensive, be curious," advocating for a 10-second pause before responding to disagreeable viewpoints.
Investment Preferences and Reading:
- Rowan names John Bogle as his most admired investor for productizing low-cost index investing.
- He identifies the financial sector as currently under-appreciated by investors who are still reacting to past market dynamics.
- Current reading includes "Smart Brevity" for communication strategy, a book on anti-Semitism by Barry Weiss, and Ray Bradbury's "Something Wicked This Way Comes."