Tyler Technologies Third Quarter 2026 Earnings Conference Call and Webcast - TYLER TECHNOLOGIES INC

Hello, and welcome to Tyler Technologies' third quarter 2026 conference call. Your host for today's call is Lynn Moore, Executive Chair, President, and CEO of Tyler Technologies. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session, and instructions will follow at that time. In order to address everyone's questions and stay within the allotted time, please limit your question to one question. And as a reminder, this conference is being recorded today, October 29th, 2026. I would like to turn the call over to Hala El-Sherbini, Tyler's Senior Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Thank you and welcome to our call. With me today is Lynn Moore, Executive Chair, President and CEO, and Brian Miller, our CFO. Also joining us today on today's call is Chief AI Officer Franklin Williams. Franklin will participate during portions of the discussion to provide additional context on our AI strategy, commercialization efforts, and adoption trends across the business. While we expect Franklin to periodically join future earnings calls when relevant, he will not be a regular participant each quarter. In an effort to streamline our earnings communications and provide timely context around our quarterly earnings release, we published our prepared remarks yesterday, shortly after posting our full quarterly results release to the news section of our investor relations website. We have also posted on the investor relations section of our website under the financials tab, a schedule with supplemental information and an earnings summary deck to supplement our prepared remarks. After I give the safe harbor statement, Lynn will have some opening remarks and we'll move directly to our Q&A session. During this conference call, management may make statements that provide information other than historical information and may include projections concerning the company's future prospects, revenues, expenses, and profits. Such statements are considered forward-looking statements under the safe harbor provision of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 and are subject to certain risks and uncertainties which could cause actual results to differ materially from these projections. We refer you to our Form 10-K and other SEC filings for more information on those risks. Len? Thanks, Hala. Our third quarter results reflect continued strong execution across the business. We delivered 11% recurring revenue growth, including SaaS revenue growth of 21.2%, expanded operating margins by 150 basis points, and generated record quarterly free cash flow of $277 million. Public sector demand remains healthy, supported by ongoing modernization priorities, strong client engagement, and an active pipeline. Budgets remain supportive of continued investment in mission-critical technology, and AI is increasingly being evaluated as an extension of broader modernization initiatives. Total SaaS bookings increased 14%, reflecting continued momentum in cloud adoption and digital transformation efforts across government. We made meaningful progress on several of our strategic growth initiatives during the quarter. Cloud migration remains one of the most significant drivers of long-term value, and momentum continues to build. Following our July outreach to on-premises enterprise clients, highlighting the value, incentives, and urgency of moving to the cloud, we have seen strong engagement across our client base and increasing activity among large clients advancing their transition plans. We also reached a key milestone with our first implementation of our multi-tenant solution for an existing enterprise ERP client, representative of our complete cloud living commitment. This is an important step toward a common code stream that enables continuous innovation, automated quarterly release upgrades, and more efficient delivery. With broader cloud living rollouts on track for early 2027, we are well positioned for an accelerating pace of migrations beginning in 2027. We also advanced our AI strategy with growing deployments, expanded agentic capabilities, and continued validation of our commercialization approach. Client adoption continues to grow, with approximately 300 deals containing AI across the portfolio. We also continue to execute our disciplined capital allocation strategy through the acquisition of COTI systems and significant share repurchases. Year-to-date, we have repurchased approximately 8.5% of our shares outstanding, with almost $1.4 billion remaining in our authorization. We enter the fourth quarter well positioned to deliver a strong finish to 26 and confident in the long-term growth initiatives that underpin our Title 2030 objectives. With that, let's open the call for questions. We will now begin the question and answer session. To enter a question into the question queue, please press star 1 on your touchtone phone. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset and then press the star key and the number 1. To withdraw your request, press the start key, then the number one. As a reminder, please limit your questions to one question, so we may stay within the allotted time. To ask additional questions, you may re-enter the queue. We will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. your first question from the line of matt van vliet with canter your line is now open please go ahead yeah good morning thanks for taking the questions um i guess when you you look at the pace of sass flips that you've had over the last couple quarters we're seeing a little bit of an uptick but maybe not an acceleration uh quite to the level that that um some were expecting is there anything on a seasonal basis that you're seeing that is maybe limiting the upside in this quarter or just so far this year? And then how much of the cloud living initiative and sort of push there should actually catalyze maybe a further acceleration to get more customers to make that SaaS flip? Thanks. Yeah, sure, Matt. I don't think there's anything really seasonal to the flips. I think if you look at the way we've approached things over the last several years, our approach has changed. I Think if you Look back four or five years, we took a little more deliberate approach for a couple of reasons. One, I don't think the market was quite ready. And two, I'm not sure Tyler was quite Ready. What we've done in the last few years around version consolidation, and yes, now with our cloud living initiatives, I think we're at the point where now we can be much more proactive. And we're starting to take those steps. So we talked about in after the uh in the july call um about the fact that i had sent out a letter to all of our local enterprise clients um each of those clients then received a touch point a direct contact from their reps and we're putting together now uh pricing strategies to sort of help people make that move we're also in a position now where we're starting to um starting to do things i think more on the what we traditionally call disincentives or sticks which is we our first flagship product this past quarter actually started to announce with its client base end of life for support, as well as the last version release with new product upgrades on the on-prem version. So we're going to continue to do those things in the coming quarters, which will, I think, continue to accelerate our foot in the cloud. I will say that the receptiveness from our clients with this new, more proactive approach has been really strong. They welcome it. We talked about this before. We talked about it with Connect and our client advisory board. Some of our clients need that little push. They need that help selling the flips inside their own departments, and we're putting together the strategies to help accelerate that. So we feel confident about where we are today and our overall 2030 flip plan. Your next question from the line of Terry Tillman with Truist Securities. Your line is now open. please go ahead. Yeah, thanks. Good morning, and thanks for taking my question. It's good to see the updates on the AI side and the deal activity, the early deal activity. I am getting some questions from folks on the SAS revenue growth and the guide for the year, so I was going to ask about that. It is kind of a multi-parter. I think you all brought down a little bit the high end of the SAS Revenue Guidance Range. There was something in prepared remarks around timing of new sales and just kind of when that plays out in the year. So could you talk a little bit about, is there like a cadence dynamics that's changed a littlebit on when you're signing the deals or some of the early revenue that you would see from these SaaS deals? And then also like what would Cody provide in 4Q? I know it's small, but like what kind of SaaS revenue contribution there? Thank you. Yeah, Terry. If you look at our outlook for SaaS sales for the year, it really hasn't changed meaningfully from where we were a quarter ago or two quarters ago, but the timing has moved a little bit. And so we've seen some deals, especially some larger deals that have signed either later in a quarter or later in the year. So it's become just a littlebit more back end loaded. Again, the sales, total sales number, pretty consistent. So as a result of that shift in the timing into a littleb it later in a year, we've recognized or the revenue that we're able to recognize under those new deals and flips included in that have has um come down a bit um so it's really around timing um as we look at the fourth quarter um we're already off to a good start in terms of the fourth order we've already signed um in october a um large erp deal probably the largest erp we've signed in several years as well as the flip of the statewide court system. So again, really around timing within the year affecting on a really pretty marginal basis the amount of revenues that we'll actually see this year from those new deals. Your next question from the line of Tamjid Chaudhry with Guggenheim securities. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Hi, thanks for taking my question. Excluding the Texas contract churn, it seems like a transaction revenue growth is actually pretty strong at like 14%. Can you give us more color on what's driving that? And I think in the prepared remarks, there was some language around transaction funded deals. I think New Jersey State Police. Can you talk about the pipeline of that sort of deal over the next 12 months? Thank you. Yeah. Transaction growth has been strong. It's exceeded our expectations a little bit this year. I think there are a couple of different vectors there. One is we continue to We have a lot of success in our strategy of integrating our payments platform with our software solutions and selling transactions back into our existing customer base that use those systems that have payments embedded in them, as well as with new software sales increasingly, including payments. So that continues to drive incremental growth. But as you mentioned, we do continue to see a number of new SAS deals that are funded as transactions. And as a reminder, those deals don't show up in SAS revenue growth or in SAS bookings. They show up in transactions, but with SaaS-like margins. And these are things like digital motor vehicle titling solutions. This quarter, we had a deal in the regulatory space that was a different kind of solution funded under transactions. So these are funded with not through SaaS fees, but user fees that are associated with the transactions or route that are managed by that software. And that is a part of the pipeline for next year. We have a number of opportunities in the digital motor vehicle titling arena, as well as around regulatory and outdoor recreation is the other area where we've seen deals. And we had a couple of those this quarter, including the Louisiana State Parks. So while it's not the primary way where our software model works, it is a model that's very attractive, especially to state government clients, because they don't have to budget funds. They're not appropriated funds, and they're not affected by budget pressures. So it is growing part of our SAS new deals, and you need to keep that in mind as you look at our SaaS bookings growth and our SaaS revenue growth. Your next question from the line of Soket Kalia with Barclays. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Okay, great. Hey, guys, thanks for taking my question here. Brian, maybe just to dovetail on that last point, I want to talk about sort of SaaS booklings and ACV sort of broadly. I think ACV from new SaaS deals and conversions was up pretty strong. I think north of 30%. SaaS bookings growth was, of course, slower. You talked about transaction-funded SaaS deals, but maybe you could also talk about how bookings duration, maybe the combination of those two, how they might be impacting that SaaS bookings number. Yeah. Clearly, the transaction-funded deals are not showing up in that number. And if they were, under a traditional SAS arrangement would actually contribute fairly significantly to that percentage growth. But duration is a factor here. Last year for new SAS deals, last year in Q3, our average duration of contracts was about three years. This quarter, it was just a little over two years. So that 30% difference in the duration really accounts for that difference between the ACV growth and the TCV growth at 14% versus the 30% plus. And to some extent, that's intentional. We have continued to try to shorten the initial terms of our SAS agreements. And a lot of our flips come in as one-year agreements and as well as some of our new deals. So that duration can bounce around a bit, but this quarter, it definitely was a factor in that difference between total bookings and ACD. Your next question from the line of Ken Wong with Oppenheimer & Co. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Great. Thanks for taking my question. I wanted to touch on the 300 AI deals that you mentioned, Lynn. When taking a look at how those deals might have played out, you know, under a normal situation versus embedding the AI in it, and any comments you can put out there as far as what the uplift in TCV, ACV, you're basically the ARPU around those deals have looked like? Yeah, so hey, this is Franklin Williams, I'm happy to address that. So I think with a lot of the things we saw in those 300 deals, what you're seeing is that embedded strategy play out. You're seeing us basically be able to attach these solutions, whether it's AP automation, fraud risk and compliance, to broader deals that we're bringing into the market. I think in each of those, the kind of attach, the uplift that we've seen there is probably still in the single digits with some of those solutions, but it is very real and it is very much growing as well. I'd add to that, Franklin, that generally what we're seeing, and I know we've had a lot of questions about this, but what we'RE seeing in the market and what weRE seeing from our clients is they want these embedded solutions. They are not looking for bolt-ons from outside sources. We're also not seeing RFPs that are specifically calling out AI for AI's sake. What they're wanting is functionality, and that functionality that we're being able to deliver in our systems with AI capabilities to continue to differentiate our products. Your next question from the line of Kirk Matern with Evercore ISI. Your line is now open, please go ahead. Yeah, thanks for taking the question. Actually, Lynn, I just want to follow up on that last point, which is you've obviously gone back to a lot of your customer base about flips over the next 12 months. Do they want that AI functionality as part of them flipping over, or is it sort of like, look, get me over like for like, and then we'll add to that? I'd imagine that might be part of the reason you're maybe looking to shorten contract duration at the outset so you can come back and upsell them you know new ai functionality sooner rather than later but i was just kind of curious where are we on that can they do sort of can they take on the ai functionality at the time they're doing the flip or is it easier for them just to sort of go from on-prem to cloud and then address ai whenever a year or two down the road thanks yeah i think the ai piece of this will as it relates to flips will be sort of part of we We talk about that buck of incentives so that as we move forward, AI features will only be in our cloud release and not in our on-prem release. And I think you'll continue to see us do that. To your first comment or one of your other comments, and I kind of touched on it in the last question, is the spectrum of clients wanting AI is kind of all over the board. The market is still has some slow receptiveness, but there's also some people that are a little more innovative. But they're not really calling out AI for AI's sake. There's still a lot of hesitation. They still are going to fall back on the things that I think really differentiate us from anybody else out there, which is the data and the trust that we provide. They're looking to us to help make their jobs better and their citizens' lives better. But again, they're wanting it to come from inside our systems, not external bolt-ons. your next question from the line of parker lane with stifle your line is now open please go ahead hey guys good morning brian you talked about some of the larger deals that you're signing um coming in later in a quarter later in the year is that simply a function of customer specific factors or is there something more broadly that's um causing that dynamic in the business yeah it's not really a market condition it's it's really customer specific and um it's been part of our business for a really long time that large deals can be lumpy and the timing can be unpredictable. They tend to move a little bit more slowly through the pipeline. And even when they get down to kind of the signing line, often there are delays that we see. And so it's hard to predict exactly where they fall. And I think one of the keys is really, even though we've had really strong SaaS bookings growth through the first three quarters of the year, it really hasn't been on the back of large deals. It's really been driven by a lot of volume of kind of traditional mid-sized deals and smaller deals. While we've said that the pipeline does contain a normal volume of larger deals, and I think we'll see some of those in the fourth quarter, But it's really kind of customer-specific, no trend or kind of market dynamic that's affecting it. It's fairly normal. Your next question from the line of Alex Zuckin with Wolf Research. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. yeah hey guys thanks for taking the question maybe maybe just a two-parter lynn for you maybe if you can opine is the current cyber security environment uh having any impact on accelerating uh flips uh or or moves to uh you know both in new business for your cloud or ai products and then brian just to clarify again really strong sas acv bookings but the decel and organic sas revenue growth to 16 percent maybe just detail a little bit more specifically about the timing impacts that are that are leading to that and how should we think about this improving uh when sizing how sas growth should move back towards your mid to long-term growth targets yeah thanks alex um on the first question i think the short answer is yes cyber security continues to drive momentum to the cloud and will continue to drive all of our modernization and security features that are that are available both with the cloud. And one of the things that we're principled about with our AI offerings is to make sure that the security is in there. And it goes back to the concept of trust with our clients. You read about cybersecurity in the news, but I can assure you that there's a lot more issues going on within the client base that will always be out there publicly, but yes, it is a driver. And in terms of the SAS growth rate, we remain very confident in that long-term 20% through 2030 that we've set as a target. We're a bit below that right now. And for this year, again, the timing of some of the deals, especially some ofthe larger deals, coming a little bit later in the year and therefore delaying the start of revenue recognition a bit. There also can be some variance around how long that lag is from when we sign a deal, whether it's a flip or a new SaaS deal to when we start to recognize revenues. And that's a factor affecting this year a bit. But again, as we move into the fourth quarter, we're pretty confident around our sales objectives in the fourth quarter, and that as we move into 2027, that we're on the right trajectory. And certainly, as we think about how flips contribute to that 20% or north of 20% SaaS revenue growth, there should be an increasing contribution from those over the coming quarters and years that push us above that level. If I could just, if I could dovetail on that, Alex, I'd say a couple of things. Coming into this year, if you looked at our sales quotas across the board, they were elevated. And we are outperforming sales from last year on our internal basis. But more holistically, we've got a lot of strategic initiatives going on. We talk about them all the time. One of the things that we've been really looking at over the last couple of quarters is a more holistic review of our sales engine generally. and how it complements with our marketing engine, looking at things like coverage, SAM, quotas, number of reps, et cetera, and starting to look at market data-driven insights to help drive sales. And I think we're going to see some more investments in our sales and marketing going into 27. You'll probably see a little bit of that in the revenue line next year, but there's a significant focus to continue to expand our sales and sales coverage, and it's something that's a strategic priority for us. Your next question from the line of Alan Berkovsky with BTIG. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Hey there, thanks for taking the question. On the EPS guidance for the full year, you left that unchanged when in past Q3s, we've seen you take that up a bit. So can you highlight maybe what we should take away there besides maybe some of the impact from the revenue timing shift you called out for why with your buyback activity that we're not seeing the EPS guide come up? Yeah, a little bit of that shift in timing and SAS revenues as a small EPS impact are, As we've continued our buyback, it is accretive. We see lower interest income as we use those funds, but the lower share count provides an EPS growth. But overall, we've left the range the same. We haven't narrowed the range, and we still expect to be within that range. So there's various puts and takes, but ultimately we're still in that same range for the year. Your next question from the line of Rob Oliver with Baird. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Great. Thank you. Good morning. Lynn, in your prepared remarks, you talked a little bit about the accelerated pace of SaaS bookings and conversions for next year that you expect. It sounds like that's in response to kind of the letter you put out of the clarion call you put out to your customers back in the summer to get everybody on board with a cloud plan. I just would love to get a little bit more color on kind of receptivity you got to that 27 sounds as if it's perhaps even a little more quickly than we expected. And were there particular areas of pushback, readiness issues, any color there, and then as you think about that in the context of the kind of 2030 targets of getting up to 85% conversion, how you are comfortable relative to that. Thank you. Yeah, Rob, I'd say the receptiveness to the letter, the proactive outreach by each of our reps that have contacts with the clients, the things we're doing around pricing strategies. It's very welcomed in the market. I want to caution. We did say we would expect flips to accelerate. We expected that anyway. Turning that excitement and receptiveness and trying to pinpoint exactly how that's going to play out in 27, I can't specifically speak to that today because there will always be other factors. However, the receptiveness that we've seen gives me even more confidence in our target for 2030. And I think that's still on track. I also mentioned, we've talked before about disincentives, which are really more things geared around, hey, let's nudge a little bit more. You know, when are we going to stop having new on-premise releases with value? When are we gonna start doing end of life for support? Things like that. Those are going to start rolling out. We already did one I mentioned with one of our major flagship products. That messaging will continue into 27, which will continue to nudge the base. What we're hearing from our client advisory board and our other client focus groups is they appreciate the nudge and they are welcome and receptive to where we're heading. Your next question from the line of Joshua Riley with Needham. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Great. Thanks for taking my question. As we look at the public safety market, we were just at the IACP conference, and a key theme there was around vendor lock-in and going all-in with one vendor. What are you seeing given some of the PR challenges in that industry in terms of any impact of spending trends and this vendor diversification concept versus going all in with just one vendor? How might that help Tyler going forward? Thank you. Yeah, Josh. Yeah, this was, you know, I didn't attend the IACP conference, but I certainly got a debrief. My understanding was it was the largest conference ever, I think over 19,000 attendees. the the feedback that i've received is that the funding environment in public safety remains very strong we left that con that conference with i think about two times the lead that we have in the past we really like our position in public safety our competitiveness and our products is still really strong in the market we don't we don't talk about specific wins against competitors but i can assure you i i take note each each quarter with certain wins and certain competitors that we do favorably against. And so I really like our position. It's also an area I talked earlier about sales and expanding our coverage. And we've been doing some things in sales there, I think, to continue to take advantage of our position in the market. In terms of the comment on sort of one vendor versus multi-vendors, I haven't seen anything that's driving a material difference in deals right now, but it's something we'll keep an on your next question from the line of andrew sherman with td cowan your line is now open please go ahead oh great thanks guys um wanted to ask about the state and also the federal business because you highlighted a bunch of those deals uh what drove the strength there how did those each track versus your expectation and and how are the pipelines for those looking into next year Thank you. Yeah, I think the the the state business is an area where we continue to execute well with the cross-sell strategy and being able to leverage the deep relationships we have through our state enterprise agreements to sell more Tyler software products into those markets. And we started to build out a dedicated state sales team about a year ago to really be that bridge between the Tyler software products and the enterprise state relationships. And that group is really starting to generate some meaningful opportunities. We're seeing an excellent level of collaboration and cooperation between our different business units in the state market. The federal market actually was pretty strong this quarter. We haven't talked a lot about federal, but we had some really nice deals this quarter, the third quarter, coinciding with the federal budget cycle is typically one of the stronger quarters there for new business. but we saw some really nice deals with our our platform there and it was a one of the definitely a bright spot in our bookings this quarter your next question from the line of Alexey Gogolev with JP Morgan your line is now open please go ahead hello everyone um brian i wanted to um summarize maybe some of the comments that you made and try to get a clearer view of 27 because it sounds like you know you have very strong federal state and local demand um you know there have been some delays and and some timing of those large deals but do i do did i hear you correctly that you expect that next year's sas organic growth to accelerate versus this year you expect some of those larger deals to close and then once taxes uh the elapsed um we should see acceleration of transactional revenue so putting all this together as well as from what i remember you suggesting that the am in position will become more visible next year does that imply a more visible acceleration of top line yeah um we're certainly not ready to give guidance for for any kind of revenue growth for um for 2027 um but but you're correct in that there are a number of positive trends um the timing around things um whether it's the timing of signing of new deals when they start to generate revenues. We've already talked about the expectation that it's really at least the second half of next year before we start to see really meaningful contribution from a lot of the new Agenic AI capabilities that we're rolling out. So I'd say all those trends are positive. We have a lot confidence in our long-term use and certainly Flips we expect to be a bigger contributor next year in terms of signings. Again, the timing will affect when those actually start to generate revenues. But generally, our trends are positive. We like our market position. We like our pipelines. And the activity does seem to be to growing across all of those areas. Your next question from the line of Trevor Walsh with Citizens JMP. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Great. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking the question. Brian, maybe for you, but Lynn, feel free to chime in as well. As the book of business around transaction-funded deals grows, does the risk profile of that kind of portion of revenue change a little bit, just given that it's going to be subject more to user fees, usage of the platform in whatever way you have that deal structured? I know there's some seasonality, obviously, around some of the outdoor things you've talked about in the past. But just how do you think about that, I think, broadly? And then can you maybe refresh our memory on that front? Are these contracts structured such that you guys will have a minimum kind of takeaway at any given year, regardless of kind of how the actual kind of flow of transactions and or, again, fees flow through? Thanks. Yeah, in a lot of cases, there is a floor. I would say that in most of these cases, there's a, at least within a range, a fairly predictable volume of whether it's how many motor vehicle registrations there are in a state in a typical year or how many visitors to the state park that generate those fees that drive the revenues to us. But as you said, they can be seasonal. Some of those things can be affected by external factors. For example, motor vehicle registrations are affected by car sales, and those are affected by the broader economy. So they're not a pro rata revenue recognition, they're not a fixed amount. So there is more variability in them or potential for that. But our pricing also reflects, to some extent, that additional uncertainty or risk that we take on. So we are compensated through that, and we generally expect those deals to be at least as profitable as they would have been had they been a SaaS deal. But the real key is that it takes it out of the budget pressure world. They're not subject to appropriated funds. operate outside of the state or local government's budget. And so it really kind of insulates them from those kinds of pressures. Your next question from the line of Camden Levy with Wells Fargo. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Hi, good morning. This is Camden levy sitting in for Michael Turin. Thank you for taking our question wanted to quickly touch on agent adoption um you have 11 agents generally available with the target of 25 by year end curious uh what metrics should investors use to distinguish uh proliferation from like commercialization and where are you guys seeing the highest uptake and interest of those agents across the portfolio of customers today yeah i'm happy to talk about that I think the uptake we're seeing, it's pretty broad across the portfolio. When we think about the key metrics that we should be looking at, the key metrics that мы're looking at. A lot of it is really centered on the value that we're delivering out to our clients. The ROI that we return to them, time we're putting back in their day, the money that we are putting back into their budget. Really, what we're looking right now is how do we drive more adoption across that portfolio? How do we give our clients what they need? the predictability they need, the proof that they need. And then all of the additional pieces that they need to know that they can trust these agents and that they ultimately bring them in and deliver the value that we're promising. And so when we think about the proliferation of this across the portfolio, I think it is important to realize that this market looks different than others. The adoption is going to move at a different pace than others, but we remain very optimistic that once we meet the mark that our clients are demanding, the trust, the proof, the predictability, that they'll be adopting these solutions really kind of across the portfolio. Your next question from the line of Sauthar Parathambi with D.A. Davidson. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Hi, thanks for taking the question. This is Sauthor sitting in for Pete Heckman. My question revolves around the issue of AI discovering critical vulnerabilities could you really talk about how you respond to those and specifically the issues with running the patch with php over the last week um so uh one of the the so this there's i think i took this maybe in a couple of parts so i think the first part is um you know as part of the value proposition we offer our clients from us from a sas perspective um you know we have a very robust security program that is continuing to get ahead of this problem a robust security program that's making sure that vulnerabilities are discovered ahead of time are quickly patched or quickly addressed um that security program is also starting to leverage uh ai to fight these vulnerabilities as well um there are there's work that we're doing with our frontier partners work that we're doing with anthropic work we're doing with others um to bring in more advanced capabilities capabilities that Tyler has been approved both by those frontier partners and the U.S. government to be able to deploy to further secure these solutions. And we think that that value proposition that we can offer is one of the additional things that we think will over time start to drive more and more SaaS adoption over the course of the coming years. Your next question from the line of Mark Chappell with Loop Capital Markets. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Thank you for taking my question. Brian, I was wondering if you'd just comment on the areas of the business that are seeing some of the strongest growth, such as ERP, courts of justice, and maybe also talk a little bit about which ones are maybe growing a little but more modestly. Yeah, I don't think there's a wide dispersion of growth across our portfolio. In terms of sales, ERP is having a strong year. We're seeing a nice improvement in win rates and more activity, especially at the upper end of the market. Courts and Justice continues to be a strong performer for us. We've got a lot of flip opportunities there. And with the FTR acquisition, we're really excited about the opportunities that brings us to continue to expand around our very large installed base there with new solutions. public safety also is an area that we are very optimistic about the growth opportunities there as we continue to move those clients to the cloud we've seen success in recent quarters especially at the higher end of the market there with some state police deals and larger opportunities there's a lot of flip opportunities in that market as well But with the acquisition of Cody, that gives us a really strong presence at the lower end of the market where we really didn't have a solution that fit well for that market. So we would expect to continue to see our public safety growth opportunities continue to expand. Thank you. The line is now open for additional questions. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your handset to enter the queue. Our next question comes from Soket Kalia with Barclays. Your line is not open. Please go ahead. Okay, great. Hey, guys, thanks for taking my follow up here. Lynn, maybe for you, you know, in the past, we've talked about how things like presidential elections, for example, don't really have an impact on spending at the state or local level. But as we go into kind of midterm election season here that, of course, are at the state level, and for all the years and decades that you've been around the business, I'm curious what you've seen historically just in terms of spending around those times and whether, you now, whether there's anything that you're seeing here as we look at Q3, Q4. It doesn't seem like it, but I just want to make sure we address it. Well, first of all, Socket, you're dating me by talking about all the years and decades I've been around the business. Yeah. Obviously, in the state market, the midterms have a little more meaning. There's a number of governor elections going on. Obviously some of those happen in the presidential election cycle. We haven't seen anything really leading up to this, But it can create a little bit of uncertainty when there's new administrations that come in. There could be a little Bit of disruption as they try to get their agenda set, particularly if it's a little Bit of a different agenda. But on the flip side, I think it actually drives a lot of opportunity because a lot Of the candidates, they run on things that we actually provide. They run on Agendas based on efficiency and accountability and public safety and oversight. So Maybe sort of in the short term, there could be a little bit of uncertainty, but in the long term, particularly based on the things that are top of mind with a lot of people today around government spending and trying to become more efficient, all the things que go right into our playbook, to me, it creates opportunities over the long-term. Your next question from the line of Billy Fitzsimmons with Piper Sandler. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Hey, guys, thanks for taking the question here. So, We've talked a little bit on this call about AI readiness for the customer base potentially being uneven with many clients interested in better functionality, but not necessarily seeking AI for AI's sake. Imagine it varies on a case-by-case basis, but any anecdotes you can share on what differentiates those customers moving ahead versus those taking the wait-and-see approach? is that those customers are potentially in a better place from a data readiness standpoint or these customers potentially having processes where they see a more tangible, immediate ROI. And then for those customers taking the wait-and-see approach, what key hurdles are there that you can kind of help them get over as they potentially adopt these solutions? Thank you. Yeah, I think you really nailed it when you talked about basically places where they can see a clear ROI. I'll give you an anecdote from the Courts and Justice Executive Forum over this past that we recently held. So those products, document automation, for example, really helps compress the amount of time that people spend docketing, filing, and processing documents. What we're seeing there is we're seeing that move from a you should do this to a you must do this. So the reason that we're seen that is because the ROI for those types of solutions are becoming just super clear. We're compressing time from weeks down to days, sometimes hours. And when we can put that in front of our clients we could tell that story people are adopting it and they're really they're really starting to basically bring that into their to their enterprise and so that's where we're basically looking to kind of run that playbook again and again and again through our through our intentional rollout process for these agentic solutions moving into a very close tight private preview with some of our trusted customers making sure that we can prove roi we can put time back in their day we can can put money back in their budget. And once we can do that, we can basically demonstrate that very tangible, very practical ROI to our other customers. And when we do that we find that those customers are very enthusiastic to move forward because every one of them I think philosophically knows that they should be doing something here and philosophically knows that AI can transform their work. They just need help discovering how. And so when we can put that tangible ROI in front of them we can help them understand the how. We're going to see more and more and more of these solutions start to look like our document automation does, where it goes from something that you should do to something that would be irresponsible not to do. Yeah, I would add to sort of cover the other side of the coin, where there are pockets of hesitation, is, you know, AI is still, it's a little bit political. There's still a little bit of unknown. You know, there's concerns and fears out there. Public officials are hearing from their citizens, whether it's, we don't want data centers here. We don't wanna, we don't our jobs taken away. Um, so there's some of that. So when I, when I talk about, you don't see an RFPs, uh, people seeking AI, what they're seeking it for is, is, is better value and the return on investment, um, that we can show them, um that, that Franklin just mentioned. So it, it is a bit of a balancing act. Um. And it's like any other technology you're going to have people on the forefront who are the innovators who are leading the charge and you're going to have people are going to be lagging behind, taking the wait and see approach. And whether that's in the private sector or the public sector, we know the public sector, it traditionally lags regardless. But we're providing that value. We're embedding in our systems to show our clients. And sometimes we don't need to actually lead with the phrase, quote, AI. It's more about here's what we can do to make you more efficient. Here's how you can serve your constituents better. Your next question from the line of Terry Tillman with truest securities. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Yeah, thanks for letting us get back in. I promise I won't get back in for a third time, okay? But I did notice earlier the commentary on federal government deals. And if I wasn't mistaken, that was the smallest business over time. And you had some acquisitions that got you into that space as well. But it was like 5% or something of the business. And even correct me if I'm wrong on that. But I noticed in your slides, It's Department of Veteran Affairs, Department of Justice, Department of Ag, Workforce Case Management. I'm curious, you know, is there some selling efforts that are paying off? Are you expanding share? And who would you be competing against in some of these deals? Because they are big agencies. I just don't know the scope of the deals. But just some more color would be great. Thank you. Yeah, these are deals that are typically six-figure ARR. most of these federal deals are utilizing our application platform that came from originally from our acquisition of micropack several years ago which got us really into the federal space federal is still a market that is less than five percent of our total revenues but that product is very competitive it's a application platform a low-code platform that has pre-built modules or accelerators that manage various processes across a wide range of federal agencies. So things like the workforce case management, managing EEOC claims, labor relations, security checks and background checks and security clearances across a number of federal agencies. And these are just part of their modernization efforts. I think as we've now moved a year away from a lot of the uncertainty and pressures we saw around Doge and the noise around that, that some of the contracting we're seeing at the federal level is returning to sort of a more normal environment. and in those a lot of those opportunities we'd be competing with other sort of platform providers we do have a really wide network of partners systems integrators and and partners that we work with at the federal level and a lot the business is driven through those partners your next question from the line of alec for alan verkovsky with btig your line is now open please go ahead hey thank you for taking the additional questions here uh lynn can you talk about talk more about what stood out most to you from on-premise customer reactions to your letters about moving to the cloud and how that impacted your confidence in reaching your 2030 migration target. And Brian, just quickly for you, what amount of inorganic revenue are you assuming in Q4 staff's revenue? Thanks, guys. I didn't hear the first part of the question. Reaction from clients around your letter. Yeah. Again, it's been extremely well received. And the fact that it wasn't just a letter that went out, but then it was followed up. Well, the letter actually contained a QR code where they could be directed to our website, talking about them and how they could start their Tyler Cloud journey, but then followed up with direct contact from our sales reps. So it's not just anecdotal messages that I'm getting. We've had contact with, I think, over 1,500 clients directly through our sales rep. I think the letter went out to 2,500. But it's the direct feedback that I am hearing through our sales channels, that gives us that confidence that our base is actually now ready to make the move. And with regard to inorganic contribution to Q4, we're estimating somewhere in the range of $8 to $9 million of revenues that are coming from acquisitions that we've closed within the last year. And the biggest share of that is coming from FTR. Your next question from the line of Tamjid Chaudhry with Guggenheim Securities. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Hey, thanks. Thanks for taking my follow-up question. I guess for Frank, can you maybe talk about, as your customers adopt these AI and agentic solutions, can you talk about what you're hearing from them from their cost perspective? Is there an heightened sense of caution when it comes to keeping lead on the cost associated with these agentic workflows that we hear about in the news in general? Thank you. Yeah, I think there is. And so let's maybe take this from kind of two perspectives. Let's take it from what we're hearing in terms of the value that they're getting out of these. And then let's take It from the perspective of the unique concerns that they bring to the table. So when we think about the value That they're Getting from these, we're Hearing people that are basically telling us that it's like basically having extra staff that's part of their team. We launched a product, our priority-based budgeting team launched a strategist that our client this past quarter. and the feedback in private preview was pretty overwhelming. People were basically saying it's like having a management consultant available to us 24 by 7 that can help us identify opportunities for savings and many of those clients are finding significant savings. We had one large county that had a 13 million dollar budget crunch and was able to basically find 9 million dollars in savings. The reason they were able to do that was because they were unable to use agentic AI able to use this kind of 24 by seven management consultant to identify surface and then help them help them act on that um seeing very similar things with uh with other agentic solutions like grant writing grant researching where if i'm in a small town there's a bunch of grants that are available to me but i don't have the staff to really find those i don' have the stuff to maintain those i don't the staff have to apply for those and so those grants go unused um our agentic solutions are basically helping expand their staff helping augment their teams and able to help them in our private preview you'll find several million dollars in uh in grants help find you know 20 million dollars that they could be applying for as well and so when we think about the value that's being delivered and how our clients are talking about it whether it's the ones that we launched here whether it is our existing solutions like document automation they're really viewing it as augmenting staff and having folks that are available to them that they just simply haven't had before now you raised the second question though which is a really great question around around cost and cost overruns and this is something that we've heard loud and clear from our clients we also had our customer advisory board join us this last quarter We spent about three hours with them talking about AI, talking about the state of the market, our direction. And one of the things we heard loud and clear from them was that the current variable metered pricing that many of the frontier providers are doing simply does not work in the public sector. They need predictability. They need reliability. They can't be going back to council month after month after months asking for increases. And so one of the things that we at Tyler talked to them about, one of the things we at tyler like believe that we can offer our clients is that predictability. That we can build these solutions, we can govern these solutions and we can deliver these solutions in a way that provides them that peace of mind and that predictibility so that they know what they're spending ahead of time. They can budget for it and they can ultimately capture that value that I talked about originally while also making sure that they're protected from all these various cost overruns. next question from the line of alex zuckin with wolf research your line is now open please go ahead hey guys i just wanted to ask about um the cadence for uh buybacks from here um is it rational for us to expect to continue strong buyback cadence into the remainder of the year and then maybe just any kind of further update on how to think about tuck in m a and capital allocation on tuck and m a versus uh buyback uh particularly given kind of where shares are trading thanks guys yeah sure alex um we're always going to be looking at let me take the last one first we're all going to look at tuck in m a um i've said many times that there are deals that that get presented to us literally every week um a lot of brokers reach out to us um that process will always continue um it's been part of our history you've heard me say m a is part of our dna um and that's part of it we're going to continue to be smart around that um there's there's certain areas that we would certainly like to continue to explore but it's all it's all like everything else it's all a matter of valuation which i think segues into the share buybacks we've been very active i think right now we we will continue to be active will we be as active as we were a few months ago part of that is looking at our cash flow part of looking at our opportunities with m&a um but it's it to me right now share buybacks remain a higher priority um when you talk about the value of the stock you know i mean it's it's i i look at it more as as where what do i have confidence in in in our 2030 vision and i have a lot of confidence in our 2030 vision i tell our teams all the time we have the right strategic initiatives and we havethe right people in place to execute them on them and so then i look out at 2030 and I look at our free cash flow, I discount it back to today. I put in other variables and say, okay, what's a reasonable buy today? And to me, it's still very compelling. And so that to me it's our confidence in our vision. And I think you will see us continue to buy back stock and I've used the phrase term reduce and maintain. I think you'll see over the next coming years as we continue to chip away at our outstanding shares that we will also probably be a little more proactive with offsetting dilution on stock-based comp, which, as you know, at Tyler's is pretty minimal compared to other software companies. There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back to Lynn Moore for closing remarks. Thanks, Frida, and thanks, everybody, for joining our call today. If you have any other questions, please feel free to contact Brian Miller or myself. Thanks everybody. have a great day. This concludes today's call. Thank you for attending. You may now disconnect.