Conference Presentation, Panel
Global Asset Management and Alternatives | Global Conference 2025
Milken InstituteSarah Sandler, Jennifer Prosek, Kamal Bhatia, Kim Lew, Tony Minella, Rick Rieder, Daniel Simkowitz
Economic Sentiment Ratings (1–5 scale):
- Kamal (PIMCO): Rated 2, citing significant nervousness among global decision-makers, though retaining long-term hope.
- Kim Liu (Columbia): Rated 2–2.5, distinguishing between near-term instability and long-term confidence in US resilience.
- Tony Smith (Eldridge): Rated 4, expressing optimism regarding technology, cost-cutting efficiency, and economic direction.
- Rick Reeder: Rated 4, acknowledging policy dislocations but citing a resilient service economy, energy independence, and superior demographics.
- Dan Goldstein (Morgan Stanley): Rated 5 for the "bull case" potential if the economy navigates current uncertainty to achieve policy equilibrium and innovation.
- Rick Reeder (on market mechanics): Noted a "five" is a viable possibility even amidst short-term uncertainty, making it difficult to maintain short positions.
Private Markets and Retirement Democratization:
- Current State: Private market exposure in defined contribution (DC) plans (e.g., 401ks) remains low, estimated at less than 0.5% globally.
- Morgan Stanley Projection: The firm is bullish on private market allocation, projecting a potential increase from 4% to 10% of its $10 trillion wealth management channel, representing a shift from $250–300 billion to $1 trillion in allocations.
- Structural Shift: The transition from Defined Benefit to Defined Contribution plans has reduced private market access for average employees; the industry is working toward "semi-liquid vehicles" and target-date funds to bridge this gap.
- Eldridge Capital: Launched a $75 billion asset manager with a focus on "GP Solutions Funds" to provide liquidity to Limited Partners by recapitalizing top-performing assets rather than forcing fire sales.
Asset Class Dynamics and Valuations:
- Convergence of Returns: Rick Reeder noted that private credit and real estate trades are increasingly converging with or exceeding public market returns due to an explosion of capital and competitive pricing.
- Credit Surge: Credit has become a dominant theme at the conference, driven by structural higher interest rates (post-financial repression) and a massive influx of capital from sovereign wealth funds and endowments.
- Illiquidity Premium Erosion: Kim Liu warned that as alternatives become more liquid and capital floods in, the historical illiquidity premium may compress, potentially lowering future returns in these asset classes.
- Benchmark Bias: Current endowment benchmarks (e.g., MSCI ACWI, S&P) create an implicit bias toward US equities, limiting global diversification opportunities despite a desire for it.
Global Investment Opportunities and Risks:
- International Credit: Brazil offers bond yields near 14.5%, while China currently has the lowest interest rates in Asia despite massive economic needs, creating diverse credit environments.
- Japan's Transformation: Japan has successfully "equitized" its market in five years, shifting corporate governance, embracing private equity/activism, and integrating capital markets similar to the US model.
- Germany's Shift: A new political leadership (linked to BlackRock) and pension reforms suggest a potential shift toward risk-taking in equity and credit markets, moving away from traditional banking financing.
- Market Selection: Panelists identified India, Japan, and Latin America as key focus areas; India is viewed as expensive but structurally transformative, while China offers valuation discounts despite geopolitical risks.
Policy Recommendations for US Economic Health:
- Federal Reserve: Kamal Sandler advised the administration to "not fire the chief of the Federal Reserve" to maintain stability.
- Innovation Protection: Dan Goldstein urged protecting R&D, universities, and the venture capital ecosystem, noting 98% of new drugs start as NIH grants.
- Fiscal Discipline: Rick Reeder emphasized the need to reduce the deficit and control debt rollover ($573 billion weekly) to protect the US dollar's reserve currency status.
- Policy Clarity: Kamal Sandler advocated for a clear, consistent policy framework (particularly tax policy) to support the US's entrepreneurial nature and manage risk.
- Communication: Morgan Stanley emphasized the need for the administration to better communicate its fiscal, deregulation, and reindustrialization strategy to the investment community.
Advice for Ascent in Asset Management:
- Skill Requirements: Kim Liu advised combining liberal arts with engineering to foster the ability to ask complex questions of AI and think globally.
- Sales Experience: Kamal Sandler suggested young professionals enter sales to accelerate learning, build resilience against rejection, and balance optimism with experience.
- Passion and Growth: Tony Smith recommended finding a personal passion and joining a growing organization where opportunities naturally expand.
- Origination: Rick Reeder identified "origination, sourcing, and creative financing" as the high-value ends of the spectrum, contrasting with free beta access via ETFs.
Birth Order and Leadership Traits:
- Universal Trend: All six panelists identified as the oldest sibling, a trait they linked to leadership styles characterized by rule-following, responsibility for others, and listening.
- Leadership Dynamics: Oldest siblings described developing a "protector" role for younger siblings, which they translate to backing up teams and managing institutional risk.