Interview
Marcus Davis on founding and leading Rethink Priorities
Organizational Growth and Structure
- Rethink Priorities (RP) grew from ~10 staff two years ago to 46 permanent employees and 12 fellows as of the interview date.
- The organization is fully remote, a strategy cited as a "huge boon" for scaling and hiring talent globally without relocation barriers.
- Staffing is split primarily between two leaders: Peter Waterford manages long-termism and survey work, while co-CEO Marcus Davis oversees animal welfare and global health/development.
- The split between co-founders is described as practical (based on Peter's machine learning background) rather than ideological.
- RP has hired 25 people in a single round earlier in the year, indicating a period of rapid expansion.
- The organization is currently among the top four largest research entities in the effective altruism community by full-time equivalent staff.
Research Strategy and Portfolio
- RP operates on three research models: foundational research (commissioned by the team's own judgment), consultancy (directly commissioned by clients), and think tank work (commissioned by theory of change/stakeholders).
- Current research focuses on "who matters morally," "how to help them counterfactually," and "how to get better at helping."
- A significant portion of recent work is commissioned consultancy for funders like Open Philanthropy, resulting in a backlog of ~90 published reports, with many pending public release.
- Animal Welfare Specifics:
- Discovered estimates of 10 to 60 trillion wild-caught shrimp slaughtered annually, plus 320 billion farm-raised shrimp.
- Proposed shifting from painful rodenticides (which cause internal bleeding) to birth control methods like "ContraPest" or non-lethal habitat reduction.
- Investigated aquatic noise pollution from oil exploration (100+ decibels) as a welfare concern for marine life.
- Proposed monitoring systems using microphones to detect animal vocalizations for distress vs. pleasure.
- Global Health and Development:
- Conducting work on the effectiveness of innovation prizes and global scientific capacity in Sub-Saharan Africa.
- Developing a report on global land burden and weather forecasting improvements.
- Long-Termism:
- Includes nuclear war risk assessment (US vs. Russia) and AI governance.
Hiring and Career Development
- RP does not prioritize CVs or traditional credentials; selection relies on work tests, writing prompts, and problem-solving assessments.
- Desired candidate traits include critical thinking, skepticism, quantitative skills, and scientific literacy.
- Hiring is heavily driven by outreach (LinkedIn/email) and promotion on the 80,000 Hours job board rather than passive applications.
- Future Hiring Plans:
- Anticipated focus on "worldview investigations" (e.g., interspecies comparisons, cross-cause analysis) early next year.
- Potential expansion of survey teams if additional funding ($3 million needed through 2023) is secured.
- Career Outcomes:
- Many alumni move to graduate studies; others transition to roles at Open Philanthropy or start new charities (e.g., via Charity Entrepreneurship incubation).
- Work at RP serves as a portfolio builder for researchers, with published reports cited by major funders to justify hiring decisions or grant allocations.
Impact and Organizational Evolution
- Strategic Shift: RP has moved from purely publishing reports to a higher volume of consultancy work where specific questions are answered for funders, often with restricted public disclosure.
- Documented Impact:
- Research on EU farm animal welfare strategies is estimated to have influenced ~$1–2 million in additional funding.
- Cited in Open Philanthropy's decision to create a new global health R&D role.
- Helped launch new charities like the Shrimp Welfare Project and Civita via the Charity Entrepreneurship program.
- Pioneered the consideration of "moral weight" and interspecies welfare in grantmaking criteria.
- Lessons Learned:
- RP was initially too slow to hire professional operations staff, which constrained growth until the appointment of COO Abraham Rowe.
- Early operational bottlenecks were solved by specializing roles (e.g., hiring a dedicated strategist and executive research assistants).
Financial Outlook and Funding Needs
- RP requires an additional $3 million over the next two years to support the survey team and avoid turning down commissioned work.
- $1 million annually is sought for "worldview investigation" research projects.
- $2–3 million is targeted for animal welfare expansion, specifically for wild welfare, invertebrates, and policy work.
- $200,000–$300,000 annually is needed for global health and development think-tank style projects.
Notable Insights and Mistakes
- Surprising Discovery: Marcus Davis was initially skeptical of the raw shrimp slaughter numbers (10–60 trillion wild-caught), only believing them after re-computing the data himself.
- Core Challenge: A lack of basic factual data (e.g., population counts, capacity for suffering) in wild animal welfare makes it difficult to design or assess interventions, a problem RP aims to solve through "basic science" first.
- Operational Mistake: Founders initially performed their own finance and budget tasks; they now view this as a constraint on growth and a missed opportunity to focus on comparative advantages in research.
- Future Vision: The organization anticipates that wild animal welfare will become a serious field, making the current establishment of basic facts (population numbers, welfare baselines) foundational for future credibility and impact.