ARHAUS THIRD QUARTER 2026 EARNINGS CONFERENCE CALL - ARHAUS INC
Good morning, and welcome to the R-House 3rd Quarter 2026 Earnings Conference Call. Please note that this call is being recorded, and the reproduction of any part of this call is not permitted without written authorization from the company. I will now turn the call over to your host, Tara Atwood-Saja, Vice President and Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Good morning. And thank you for joining us for the R House 3rd quarter 2026 earnings call. Joining me on today's call for prepared remarks are John Reed, our founder, chairman, and chief executive officer, and Michael Lee, our chief financial officer. During Q&A, we kindly ask that you limit yourself to one question only. This will allow us to get to as many callers as possible within our one-hour window. You are welcome to re-queue for additional questions if time permits. We issued our earnings release and Form 10-Q for the quarter ended September 30, 2026, before the market opened today. Those documents are available on our Investor Relations website at ir.rhouse.com. A replay of the call will be available on your website within 24 hours. I would like to remind everyone that our remarks today concerning future expectations, events, objectives, strategies, targets, trends, or results constitute forward-looking statements. Actual results or events may differ materially due to a number of risks and uncertainties. For a summary of these risk factors and additional information, please refer to this morning's press release and the cautionary statements and risk factors described in our most recent annual report on Form 10-K and subsequent 10-Qs, as such factors may be updated from time to time in our filings with the SEC. The forward-looking statements are made as of today's date and, except as may be required by law, the company undertakes no obligation to update or revise these statements. We will also refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures, and this morning's press release includes the relevant non-GAP reconciliation. Now, I will turn the call over to John. John, over to you. Thanks, Tara. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. Before discussing our results, I want to welcome Casey Moss, who joined our house in September as our new Chief Digital Officer. Casey brings extensive experience in digital commerce and customer experience, and we're excited about the opportunities ahead as we strengthen our digital capabilities and introduce our house to more clients. Turning to our results, we saw another record third quarter for our house with net revenue of $368 million, up 6.8% year over year and above the midpoint of our guidance range. As we celebrate our 40th anniversary, these results reinforce the strength of the Our House brand and the progress we're making against our long-term growth strategy. We continue to see resilience among our high-end clients who are investing in their homes despite the challenging housing market and economic environment. We believe our premium positioning provides exposure to a more affluent consumer who continues to benefit from accumulated wealth, home equity, and financial assets. A recent Bank of America research report highlighted that household assets exceed 10 times household liabilities for the first time in six decades, supporting the strong backdrops for demand. What was encouraging this quarter was the strength of our underlying demand. Comparable written sales increased 13.9% year over year, building on a strong growth in the prior year period for a two-year stack increase of 21.4%. More importantly, this demand was broad-based across product categories, geographies, and selling channels. We believe this momentum reflects the investments we've made in compelling new products, expanded customization, our interior design and trade business, and marketing initiatives designed to reach new clients. Turning to product, as we approach our 40th anniversary on November 8th, I'm reminded of the values that have defined our house since the beginning. We are a family-founded business built on a passion for exceptional people, beautiful products, and doing things differently. For me, it's always to start with the product. Quality and craftsmanship are at the heart of everything we do, and we hold ourselves to incredibly high standards. We work directly with talented artisans around the world, many of which operate small family-run businesses. These relationships allow us to collaborate closely on design, material, and quality, while eliminating unnecessary middlemen and costs. It's how we bring our clients distinctive, beautifully handcrafted products at a compelling value while supporting attractive margins for our business. And just as important as the products themselves is how we bring them to life. Our showrooms are designed to inspire. We pay attention to every detail, creating beautiful theatrical environments that allow clients to experience the R-House lifestyle. Our talented visual teams brings an artistic eye to each location, tailoring the experience to the local market while carrying the same inspiration across our digital channels. That combination of exceptional product, authentic craftsmanship, and inspiring presentation has differentiated our house for 40 years, and it remains central to how we think about our future. New product introductions continue to be an important contributing factor. Our 40th anniversary fall catalog showcased fresh designs, distinctive materials, richer textures and thoughtful interpretations of traditional design within our collected home. The response has been encouraging, with newness representing more than a quarter of our written sales in the third quarter. And we're moving faster. We've continued to evolve our merchandising organization, including an addition of a chief merchandise officer and the expansion of our product, design, and sourcing teams. I'm also pleased to share that we recently hired a senior VP of global sourcing. She knows our brand well, and we've worked with her for some time. She brings 30 years experience building relationships with talented artisans around the world. We're also finding opportunities to bring exciting collections to market sooner. We are also using digital imaging and product visualization to introduce products online more quickly and selectively test new collections in our showrooms before expanding distribution. We are particularly excited about the return of more expressive interiors. We are seeing opportunities to introduce richer colors, sophisticated florals, layered patterns, and unexpected combinations of materials and textures. These designs give clients new ways to express their personal style and allow us to further differentiate the Our House assortment. Our recent introductions reflect this direction, from hand-tufted upholstery crafted in North Carolina to distinctive furnishings incorporating natural stone, oak, linen, and rich performance fabrics. We have an exciting pipeline of collections still ahead. is another area where we're making meaningful progress. We're expanding our selection of fabrics, leathers, as well as trims, hardware, and finishes, along with new opportunities to personalize our wood and stone furnishings. An exciting example is our expanded made-to-order natural stone assortment, which now offers clients a choice of 12 distinct stone varieties across the collection. Sourced from around the world, each stone has its own color, veining and natural characteristics. Our domestic upholstery manufacturing operation in North Carolina is a meaningful advantage in supporting this demand. What began with my early travels to North Carolina searching for artisans who shared our commitment to craftsmanship has evolved into an extensive upholstery assortment in our own manufacturing operation and the heart of American furniture country. Today, our North Carolina facility combines traditional craftsmanship that has defined our house for decades with investments in production capabilities, material availabilities, and special order fulfillment. We're also investing in introducing our house to a broader audience. We more than doubled distribution of our 40th anniversary fall catalog, significantly expanding our reach to prospective clients, with new customers increasing more than 20% in September versus last year. We're encouraged by the response and have increased our investment in the upcoming spring catalog, which will begin reaching households in early January. As we look ahead, I believe we're just beginning to realize the potential of our product strategy. We have a strong pipeline, greater customization capabilities, and a talented team of merchants, designers, and artisans to bring our vision to life. Turning to our clients, one of the most encouraging aspects of the quarter was the quality of demand across our core customer interior design and trade channels. We're seeing clients make meaningful investments in their home with strong demands for larger, higher-value projects. Our largest transactions grew strongly, with orders over $100,000 increasing significantly during the quarter. These trends reflect the resilience of our high-end clients and the breadth and appeal of our offering. Affluent clients continue to refresh and renovate their homes, while the broader housing market remains highly suppressed, we're seeing strength in the luxury market, particularly in the second and third home transaction. Interior design remains an important driver of our client engagement and a meaningful competitive advantage. During the quarter, we experienced significant growth in interior design-assisted written sales, which continues to represent a significant portion of our overall business. Our complementary design services help clients bring larger, more personalized projects to life, while creating opportunities to deepen relationships and build long-term loyalty. We are also pleased with the continued growth of our trade channel following enhancements to the program earlier this year. We're expanding our relationship with design professionals, including many who are new to our house, and see meaningful opportunities to grow this reoccurring project-driven business. Together, these channels give us multiple ways to serve clients, deepen relationships, and capture a greater share of their home furnishings needs. Turning to showrooms, our showrooms remain the front door to our house. Bringing our product to life through an immersive experience, during the third quarter, we saw strong, comparable written sales growth with encouraging traffic and conversion trends. We're pleased with the performance of our mature showroom base and the opportunities we're seeing in the newer markets. We also continue to invest in elevating the showroom experience. Our recently relocated Charlotte showroom at the Village at South Park is a wonderful example. It brings together our artists and crafts and collections, expanded customization offerings, and personalized interior design services in an exceptional setting. We see significant opportunity to expand our footprint across the country while remaining disciplined in how we evaluate new locations and invest in our existing showrooms. As we celebrate our 40th anniversary, I'm proud of how we're honoring the craftsmanship and values that built our house while continuing to evolve our product capabilities and client experience. The strength of demand this quarter gives us confidence that our strategy is resonating, and we believe there is meaningful opportunity still ahead. I want to thank our teams, manufacturing colleagues, artisans around the world for their creativity, dedication, and commitment to our clients. They are what makes our house special. With that, I'll turn the call over to Mike. Thanks, John, and good morning, everyone. This quarter, we remain focused on what sets our house apart, introducing exceptional new products, deepening client relationships, and executing with discipline. Our team's efforts contributed to record third quarter net revenue of $368 million, an increase of 6.8% year-over-year, representing our strongest third quarter net revenue performance in our house's 40-year history. Our results were supported by continued showroom expansion and robust demand from our high-end clients. Gross profit was $144 million, an increase of 8.2% versus last year, while gross margin expanded 50 basis points to 39.2%. To elaborate on the puts and takes, first, let me cover what is happening with fuel and transportation. During the quarter, we experienced approximately 60 basis points of cost increases due to fuel surcharges, with fuel surcarges climbing above 10% of delivery costs during several weeks of the quarter. Offsetting the increased fuel costs was 80 basis points a benefit related to our new TMS, which helped to optimize both load utilization and routing across our network. Additionally, we had 20 basis points of benefit from our delivery fee increase taken in June. Netting the various fuel and transportation puts and takes resulted in a 40 basis point benefit during the quarter. Second, showroom occupancy costs increased 110 basis points during the quarter, driven by our continued expansion of our footprint, and this will moderate as our new showrooms mature. Incidentally, if you exclude our showrooms opened less than one year and their respective pre-opening showroom costs, our gross margin would improve by 160 basis points for the quarter. I share this simply to illustrate the impact of new showrooms on our gross-margin performance. Third, we experienced 100 basis points of negative channel mix in the quarter as we increased clearance activity through our loft locations. Importantly, the increased clearance activity was a strategic decision to improve inventory productivity, accelerate the movement of long-dated merchandise, and create capacity for compelling new product introductions. We view these impacts as temporary rather than structural. Fourth, there was 230 basis points of benefit in the quarter tied to lower product costs and improved rate and product mix, resulting in an overall 50 basis point improvement for the quarter. Looking ahead, we see several opportunities to support gross margin improvement. Under the current tariff framework, we estimate annual tariff costs of approximately 30 to 40 million, compared with our estimates of 50 to 60 million prior to the Supreme Court ruling, representing roughly $20 million of lower annualized impact. We also implemented price increases in October, which will help to offset cost pressures, and when combined with more normalized promotional activity and channel mix, coupled with our continued transportation efficiencies, we believe these initiatives position us to improve gross margin over time. Selling, general, and administrative expenses were $134.3 million during the quarter, up 14.8% versus last year. This includes $10.5 million of higher general and administrative expense and $6.8 million of higher selling expense. As a result, SG&A load increased 250 basis points to 36.5 percent. Approximately 100 basis points of this increase reflects higher variable compensation associated with strong written sales growth. Commissions are recognized when orders are written while the related revenue is recognized upon delivery. As a result, the gap between comparable written and delivered sales during the quarter created near-term expense deleverage. This reflects a timing difference rather than a structural increase in our cost base, and we expect the pressure to reverse in the fourth quarter. Marketing and technology investments added 150 basis points to SG&A. These investments are intended to support long-term growth with benefits extending beyond the period in which these costs are incurred. We expect to cycle past elevated technology investments in the coming quarters and see opportunity for SG&E leverage over time. Legal expenses added approximately 80 basis points and are expected to remain elevated over the next one to two quarters. These costs are not structural and do not reflect a change in our day-to-day operations. Net income was $7.8 million, down 36% versus last year. Adopted EBITDA was $27 million within our guidance range and down 12.3% versus last year. Adjusted EBITDA margin was 7.4%, a decrease of 170 basis points. The margin decline primarily reflected higher SG&A expenses, including marketing and technology investments, variable compensation timing, and elevated legal costs, as well as cost pressures in the cost of goods sold line, particularly higher transportation and fuel costs and expenses related to new showrooms and pre-opening activities. We expect these pressures to ease over time as written orders convert to delivered revenue, and as legal expenses moderate, new showrooms mature, and transportation and fuel costs normalize. Our marketing and technology investments are intended to support long-term growth with benefits extending beyond the period in which these costs are incurred, and we remain focused on disciplined expense management while investing in the business, and we see opportunity for improved profitability and operating leverage over time. Comparable delivered sales increased 2.6% in the quarter, bringing year-to-date comparable delivered sales growth to 1.8% within our guidance range. Comparable written sales increased an impressive 13.9% in a quarter, building on the 12.5% growth achieved in the second quarter and bringing year-to-date comparable written sales growth to 6.7%. We're encouraged by the breadth and quality of demand. Underlying client metrics continue to reinforce our confidence in the resilience of the affluent consumer. September was particularly strong, reflecting the effectiveness of our product, marketing, and promotional activities, and we doubled the catalog circulation while quadrupling the number of prospect clients reached. Demand also benefited from compelling new product introductions, our 40th anniversary campaign, the September semi-annual sale, and a 40-month 0% financing offer, which we brought back in November. New client acquisition increased more than 20% year-over-year in September, while engagement from existing clients also strengthened. And these results demonstrate our ability to attract new clients while deepening relationships with our existing client base. And this strength extended beyond client acquisition. Order volumes and units per transaction increased, as well as average order value. Larger purchases were strong, And orders exceeding $25,000 increased 35% in the quarter, while orders exceedING $100,000 increased 30% for the quarter and 60% in September. These trends reinforce our confidence in the underlying health of our client base, the effectiveness of our investments and brand awareness and product innovation, and our ability to translate growing engagement into sustained demand turning to our balance sheet we ended the third quarter with 318 million in cash and cash equivalents which is an increase of 25.5 percent from the year end 2025 with no long-term debt reflecting our strong financial position and continued cash generation net merchandising inventory totaled 360 million an increase of 6.4% from year-end, reflecting our continued investment in product availability and new collections, balanced with disciplined inventory management. Client deposits reached approximately $325 million, an increase of 37.7% from the year-ending 2025, reflecting the strength of our outstanding client order base and providing visibility into future delivered revenue. For the first nine months of 2026, net cash provided by operating activities totaled $173 million. Our strong financial position provides flexibility to fund our strategic growth initiatives while maintaining a disciplined approach to capital allocation. Turning to strategic investments, we continue to advance our multi-year technology transformation with a focus on enhancing the client experience, improving operating efficiencies, and supporting future growth. As implementation progresses, we continue to refine the sequencing of our initiatives to support successful execution and maximize their long-term benefits. We completed implementation of our TMS this year and are beginning to realize the benefits. During the third quarter, our delivery network efficiencies help to mitigate elevated fuel costs, demonstrating the early impact of these investments. And we continue to expect $45 million in annualized savings at full scale with benefits increasing in 2027. We continue to advance our POS, ERP, and OMS initiatives. Our new POS platform is scheduled to begin piloting in the fourth quarter with a go-live in the first quarter of 2027 to enhance the client experience and simplify showroom workflows. We expect OMS and ERP to be production ready in May 2027 with implementation costs starting to moderate thereafter. And we're targeting a phase go live for either May or August to minimize operational disruption. We expect approximately 50 basis points of SG&A improvement by 2030 as transformation related to spending moderates to a more normalized level of ongoing licensing and maintenance costs. Together with expected transportation savings, improved inventory visibility, and greater operational efficiencies, we believe these initiatives will support meaningful adjusted EBITDA margin expansion over time. Additionally, under Casey Moss's leadership, we are accelerating our focus on digital and e-commerce growth, with priorities focused on enhancing the online client experience, improving conversion, and expanding our reach. Today, approximately 80% of our e-commerce clients live within 50 miles of a showroom, highlighting the significant untapped opportunity beyond our physical footprint. While we continue to expand our showrooms, we believe our digital strategy allows us to reach new clients and grow e-commerce independent of our retail expansion. Our long-term ambition is to increase e-commerce penetration to 25% of revenue over the next five years, supported by a stronger digital experience, improved conversion, and greater awareness. Turning now to our outlook, the third quarter marked our eighth consecutive quarter of delivering results at or above our guidance, reflecting our disciplined execution, our deep understanding of the business, and our measured approach to forecasting in a dynamic environment. We're particularly encouraged by the sustained strength in client demand over the past two quarters, and building on this momentum, we are raising our full-year net revenue and comparable delivered sales outlook, reflecting continued demand strength and our confidence in converting our growing written order pipeline into delivered revenue. For the full year, we now expect net revenue between $1.465 billion to $1,485 billion, representing year-over-year growth of between 6.2% and 7.7%. This includes comparable deliverable sales growth of 2.5% to 4.0%, and we are maintaining our full-year profitability guidance following this increase we made in the last quarter. With today's higher net revenue outlook, we have now raised both our top-line and profit expectations over the past two quarters. An increase in our net revenue outlook is expected to generate approximately $4 to $5 million in incremental profitability, which we are strategically reinvesting into initiatives to further growth. This includes approximately $3 million toward expanding our spring catalog circulation and approximately $2 million toward digital and e-commerce initiatives. While fuel and transportation costs remain headwinds, we believe these targeted investments position our house to drive future demand and support long-term operating leverage. We continue to expect net income of $71 million to $81 million, and adjusted EBITDA of $160 million to $171 million. For the fourth quarter, we expect net revenue between $398 million and $418 million, representing a year-over-year growth rate of between 9.1% and 14.6%. And this includes comparable delivered sales of between 6% and 12% and net income of between $21 million and $30 million, with adjusted EBITDA of $44 to $55 million. In closing, we are pleased with our third quarter performance, including record net revenue, strong comparable written sales growth, and our eighth consecutive quarter of meeting or exceeding guidance. We remain focused on converting written orders into delivered revenue, managing costs with discipline, and executing the investments that support sustainable, profitable growth. Thank you to our teams across our house and our shareholders others for their continued support. With that, I'll turn the call over to the operator. We are happy to take your questions. Thank you. We will now be conducting the question and answer session. We ask that you limit yourself to one question and one question only. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star 2 if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment, please, while we poll for questions. Our first question comes from the line of Jonathan Matuszewski with Jefferies LLC. Please proceed with your question. Great. Good morning, John, Mike. Thanks for taking my question. It has two parts. The first part is on the 20% new customer growth in September. Anything that stands out there in terms of early ordering behavior or demographics for that cohort versus maybe your existing customers? I think you cited, you know, growth over $100,000 for certain So is it safe to conclude your customer file may be shifting even more affluent these days? And then the second part, just Mike, if you could help us in terms of the path for converting written comps into delivered comps, if he could clarify maybe what's the written comp embedded in your 6% to 12% delivered comp for 4Q, and if you were to hit that, what that would imply in terms delivered comp as we kick off 2027. thanks so much hey good morning jonathan uh i can start with um that you asked about the new new customers the 20 increase um yeah but we haven't dug into it thoroughly because we normally like to give it's you know 30 60 90 days to really dig into it but um you know what we're what we were seeing is it was really across the board it was across the geography um existing stores. Stores, you know, have been around for many years. We saw a nice increase in new customers as well as certainly the newer markets. We certainly found that as well. Some of the newer markets where we were not known as well, getting the extra marketing and so forth really paid off. So we're seeing it across the board. It definitely is a strong customer. Like we You've mentioned a lot of second and third homes, a lot of remodeling being done in this country as people are not moving, and we're taking advantage of that. So it's an exciting thing to learn, and we're going to keep pushing it and get more and more customers. Yeah, just to build on that, Jonathan, yeah, we're really, really excited about the new customer acquisition in September. We think a lot that comes back to the investment we made in the fall catalog and where we sent the catalogs and really did a good job of vetting, you know, the prospect targets. So 20% growth is a pretty strong outcome for us. And that's what led really to our decision to lean into the spring catalog. And just for everyone on the call, I just want to highlight, we expense the catalogues when they're shipped, right? So that's one of the factors that impacted our Q3 profitability is we elected to expand the fall circulation, the fall catalog circulation, and we expense that entire circulation during the quarter. Similarly, as we invest in the spring catalog, that's an investment that will incur the cost for in Q4. But again, there's early days, to John's point, on the return on investment, but the early indicators are that we're very pleased with the outcome. In terms of your question around how accretive are these customers, you know, we're still getting into the details of the customers that we generated through the catalog themselves, but when you look at average AOV on new customers versus existing customers in September, it's 30 plus percent higher. So it's very accretive, these new customers. So again, another reason why we feel compelled to increase and lean into the spring catalog as well. So hopefully that provides a little bit of color. I think your question on the delivered and written sales for Q4, we don't really get into the guide on quarterly written and delivered. But I can tell you in Q3, you know, I highlighted the variable comp impact in our P&L. And it's kind of an odd thing, but we do compensate our sales force on written sales. And written sales were about 20% higher than delivered sales in Q4. So you can imagine that distortion where you're paying for essentially deferred revenue. and and that's okay the model works we've had it this way for years but when you have these periods where the quarter ends with a lot more written than delivered you can have that distortion so it's about a hundred basis points of temporary impact on the P&L that will you know fully reverse out in q4 so when you look at q4 and and you say okay how much you know if you you wrote 20% more than you delivered in q3 what does that look like for q4 right now we're modeling that Q4 delivered will be about 15% higher than written. But again, those numbers are still moving around a lot, but hopefully that provides a little bit of color on the dynamics between delivered and written. And Jonathan, just one thing I wanted to say. Oh, thank you. We'll go on to the next question. Our next question is from Steve Forbes with Guggenheim Securities. Please proceed with your question. Hey guys, good morning. This is Jake Nivas on for Steve here. I just kind of wanted to piggyback on that one. So, but zeroing in on marketing here and the strategy altogether. So you know, understanding the idea of expanding the catalog search circulation. But can you, you know elaborate on these targeted marketing initiatives and promo events that you've outlined today? I guess, you Know, what specifically was done? You know, what did you learn? And really just from a brand awareness standpoint, do you see, you know, I guess an uplift in existing markets to the same degree as newer markets? You know, just trying to get a general sense of what the, you know, what the potential is here. Thank you. Yeah, Jake, I can start that. Yeah. As far as markets go, it truly has been across the board. And we are targeting markets, you rather evenly or a little heavier in some of the newer markets where we're not known quite as well but the response has been fantastic in both and we're not doing anything different as far as promotions and that than normal and we had the same promotion last year in the year before in in the third quarter so we're changing our promotions at all new product is working unbelievably well, and we're seeing a big drive of that is one of the big reasons, not only the marketing part, but the product has really resonated with our consumer. And so, you know, some of that product really was getting to, you know, a few stores because it was new stuff, but after we were testing it, you know, we're really encouraged to get the new really high-flying product out to all the stores. And so we see a great, great future coming up in the 2027 as well. Perfect. Thank you. And just, just one follow up here for e-commerce, you know, understanding, trying to lean into that some more. But, you Know, just curious, I guess, how do you balance the growth between, you Now, in-store showroom versus e-commerce? And, you now, I know you made the point that they are mutually exclusive to a large extent. But just curious if you can elaborate on that strategy, maybe from a product and marketing standpoint and how that may differ from the inshore room. Thank you, guys. Yeah. As Mike said, we have a new head of e-com. And there's just a lot of low-hanging fruit that we can do on our website that will not only enhance and help sales on the website side, but also it'll drive a lot more consumers into the stores. You know, when people are purchasing a large amount of furniture, they really love to come in, touch it, feel it, but they always start their transaction online. And And so we think the enhancements we're already planning to do, and some of them we're literally starting already, on the e-comm digital side is going to help both, and I think help both evenly. Perfect. Thank you, guys. Thanks, Jake. Our next question is from Peter Keith with Piper Sandler. Please proceed with your question. oh thanks good morning guys um congrats on the second consecutive quarter of the double digit written demand i did want to focus on that that catalog uh that you bailed out in q3 you talked about a doubling of the catalog shipments a forex increase in prospecting so uh with the increased marketing expense for the spring catalog is that something that what you did with fall you're going to repeat now with um with the spring catalogue and is that that three million of expense, the total amount, or will it be some that carries over into Q1? Yeah, Peter, it's Mike here. Good question on the accounting. You know, we've run this a few different ways, but the clear reality is that accounting rules require that all of the catalogs get shipped at the time of delivery to the shipper. So as much as that creates a matching issue between expenses and revenue. That's how the accounting works. So there's a bit of a, think of it as a prepayment impact in December that we're going to occur with this shipment. But again, we continue to manage the business for long-term value creation, and it's absolutely the right investment for us to make. And it's a few million dollars. So it's something over the grand scheme of things isn't a huge investment, but it's worthwhile. You know, going back to the question from, you know, from Jake earlier around what are we learning? What are we experimenting with? You know one of the things that we are experimenting with is how we prospect and making sure that we're taking a balanced approach between some of the bigger, more mature markets and some of the markets where we're newer and developing, right? We've been in California for only a few years. And that's an area where, you know, we continue to, you know, look for ways to build brand awareness. And with this last catalog, we ended up deploying a little more of our circulation into California, particularly into, you know. Some of those prospect markets where there's, you know, high net worth in some of these areas. And when you take a big step back, we think we're really well positioned in someof these newer markets in terms of site selection, in terms of where our showrooms are. But when you look at where our sales are coming from, and you plot that against where all the wealth is, there's still tons of white space opportunity, even in some of these markets. So John's really been pushing us on, like, how do we build awareness faster in some these markets? And we think the catalogs are going to be an important vehicle for us going forward. The other thing we're experimenting with, and I know this is getting into a little bit of the weeds, but we send out more than just our big book. We send out mailers, we send out some category level catalogs on occasion. And, you know, there's like an eight to one trade off between we can send out eight small mailers for every big catalog. And we've been challenging ourselves on, you know, what's the role of each and, you know, the little mailers that are like five to seven, ten pages, those are great for, you Know, creating, you Know, kind of a pulse reminder to clients, but we don't believe that those stay on the coffee table for months and months, whereas the large catalogs stick around and they tend to be on the on the copy table. And, you Know, it might take someone 30 to 60 days of flipping through the catalog to get the order in. But we think it has that staying power. And with the work that we're doing on these catalogs, we're so proud of what's in them. We believe that that staying power is really important. So we're continuing to learn from that in terms of optimization. And candidly, we were looking at how do we balance across printed versus e-com. And we've been leaning into paid search on e-comm over the last several months. And we've been seeing good ROI on that as well. So that's that on catalogs. But getting back to digital, I just want to remind everybody that we see e-com is a $500 million opportunity for our house by 2030, right? So when we kind of take a big step back and look at our five-year plan, we think we can get our e-comm business up from, you know, we're at 16 to 17% e-com penetration in terms of mix of our business today, we think we can get that up to 25%. And that's an incremental, depending on your watermark here, but that's an incremental $250 to $275 million versus where we are today. And what's really cool about that is when you look at the revenue growth from that, there's really strong gross margins from that because we don't have occupancy costs with leases and all the OPEX that goes along with running showrooms. We don't have all the staffing expenses across the showrooms, and candidly, as we grow e-comm, we can support it really efficiently from a G&A perspective. So, we think it's absolutely transformational to our P&L, and hence, we're going to lean in really hard over the next 12 to 18 months. We've already got a CDO, a chief digital officer in place, and she's coming up to speed quickly. And as part of that, you know, we'll be making some selective investments to really build out capabilities on the team in terms of like engineering capabilities and UX, you know design type capabilities and folks that can help us with analytics and CRM and all of that. And we've got a very clear roadmap over the next 12 to 18 months of where we're going to make some investments and building out our web capabilities. And candidly, we think we're in a very strong foundation today in terms of the technology platform. But there are some gaps that we see in our website today that we're going to close pretty rapidly here over the next 12 to 18 months. So we can't get into the details of the what and the when, but these aren't massive investments. These are very tactical that are mostly people-led. So our confidence level about delivering on these various initiatives over the next 12 to 18 months is high. And now that we've got dedicated resources to it, we're going to move as quickly as we can. And in terms of the P&L impacts over the short term, we are still working through what that revenue expense profile looks like. But we expect a lot of this to be self-liquidating, where the revenue growth that we get even into next year is going to pay for some of these investments. So at a minimum, it should be like break-even type investments, and then it will grow into accretive investments over time. We'll have more to talk about digital on our Q4 call. Once Casey gets up to speed, we'll start to share a little more about where we're going and what the profile of the growth looks like. But I'll leave it with that for now, Peter. Okay. Thank you very much for all the detail, Mike. Yep. Our next question is from Simon Gutman with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question. Good morning. This is Adam asking a question on behalf of Simeon. So I'm just curious, are customers primarily buying individual pieces or are you seeing more demand for complete rooms or multiple room projects? So, like, could you talk a little bit about how the mix has changed recently? Thank you. yeah i think we we said that in our earnings call that um you know we're seeing seeing folks spend more money we're saying some larger sales um very nice growth as as mike just had said on the call um so you know in in the third quarter we saw both we saw you know more traffic in the stores. We've seen more individual sales, but more importantly, we've been seeing some more of the larger sales have really been adding up. And like I said, people aren't moving. They're fixing up their homes, and they're putting money into it. Our customers are certainly elevated where they are earning enough money to put money back into their homes and um we're getting the benefit of that okay to build on that adam you know one of the things that we're really excited about in the business is how we we alluded to in our in our remarks how broad-based the the growth was and uh just to kind of build on on what john was talking about when you uh look at traffic uh we saw showroom traffic grow you know low single digits during the quarter. Ecom traffic was up double digits during the quarter, which was great. And then you get into like the sales equation. Order count was up, you know, in the teens in the quarter. And if you look at it on a comp basis, our order count was up high single digit. Our AOV was up by single digit and that was really driven by, you know, growth in both units per transaction. So it gets at your question, Adam, about are people buying one big piece or multiple pieces? Well, we saw growth in units per transaction. So that should answer your question. And then average unit retail is obviously up year over year with the pricing actions that we have taken. And then just going back to some of the transaction sizes, really happy with the continued premiumization of the business with orders above $25,000, growing 35% in the quarter, which we thought was really impressive. When you look at it from a product perspective, one thing we didn't comment on but we're really excited about is special order. Special order is growing share of our business. So special orders actually grew about 50% faster than the overall business to just give you a sense of how excited some of these new categories are where we have special order options that we didn't have in the past. And then newness continues to be a huge priority for us. Our merge team is moving faster than ever before. And the feedback that we're hearing from customers and the orders that they're placing on newness has been really, really impressive. And we don't always highlight this, but when you look at the quarter, customer satisfaction continues to perform well. When you look at some of the metrics around cancellations and returns and exchanges, you know, all improve versus prior year, which means that, you Know, we're executing well, customers are happy with what they're getting. And we're seeing, you Now, fewer cancellations in return. So really, just, you Know. I couldn't emphasize more how broad based the performance has been, you know, for the last quarter and in many ways, you know, with Q2 as well. Thank you so much. Our next question is from Christina Fernandez with Telsey Advisory Group. Please proceed with your question. Hi, good morning. I wanted to see if you could frame the 2026 guidance. What are the key factors to get, you know, to the low end versus the high end. And as you look at the strong demand trends you're seeing to the extent that that continues in the fourth quarter, it's the philosophy to reinvest that in the business as you did in the third quarter or to let some of it flow to the bottom line. Thanks. Yeah, good question, Christine. Look, that's always the balance, right? We are really excited about what we're seeing from a written order perspective. And there's so many things that are working well now. We have had, I'd say, a bias toward investment, but it's a balanced approach. And, you know, we continue to apply the same financial rigor that we've talked about quarter and quarter, you knows, over and over. And we are in a bit of an investment mode. The catalog investments that we're making we think are working really well. We're leaning into digital, and there's going to be some investments there. But it's going be a balanced approach, Christina. We can't do everything at once. So it's really with a focus toward let's continue to grow the business, but let's make sure that we are balancing against execution. Because it's not just taking the orders. We've got to get them out, right? And we've got manage the supply chain along the way, make sure we keep customer satisfaction up. But in terms of what frames Q4, look, we've talked about the investments. So those are kind of set at this point. But what will really drive Q4 is on the delivery of the current open orders. And we are pushing hard on the supply chain. We're asking a lot of them. We are setting records every week and every month now in terms of total delivered throughput. So they're really killing it from an execution perspective. And if we can exceed even our current expectations, we can come in on the top side because there's plenty of demand out there that's, you know, open orders. It's just how much can we actually get out the door? We are, you know, we continue to be well positioned from an inventory perspective, from an in-stock now status. But we have seen a little bit of a dip in in- stock now just with the, you know, outsized growth that we experienced in Q3, but nowhere near some of the challenges that we had last year at this time. So we're continuing to navigate through that. So in a nutshell, Christina, it's how much can we actually get delivered and we're pretty comfortable on the low end. The high end would require a few more record-setting weeks from a delivery perspective. Our next question is from Bobby Griffin with Raymond James. Please proceed with your question. Good morning. This is Alexandra Jimenez on for Bobby Griffin. Thank you for taking our question. I wanted to follow up on gross margins and the transportation efficiencies. You guided to one to two million of the TMS savings in 26 and then four to five at full implementation. When should we expect to realize the full runaway benefit? And then more broadly, how should we think about the underlying gross margin trajectory into 27, particularly as we lap one-time tariff refund benefits? And then could you also remind us what the tariff refund impact was in 3Q and then what you're expecting for 4Q? Yeah, there's a lot there. So let me think, where do we start here? In terms of the margin profile going into next year, we're well into our budget cycle for fiscal 27. And, you know, when you look at some of the foundational assumptions going in, we are expecting – well, I shouldn't say expecting. We are forecasting into our plan elevated fuel costs will continue into next year, right? And right now we're kind of modeling through half of next year that we'll continue to see these elevated fuel surcharges. We've, you know, it's been very volatile, as you guys know, but the fuel surcharges have hovered anywhere as high as 11%, 12% during the quarter, as low as 8%, so it's really moved around a lot. I think we're doing a good job of managing it, but it's just, you Know, it is a very dynamic environment. So, the delivery fee increases that we took are helping to mitigate some of that. But, you know, in hindsight, we look like geniuses pushing for our TMS technology to be the first out of the gate on our transformation initiative. We launched our TMS, which is our transportation management system for folks on the call, if you don't know all these acronyms. But this is the technology that we deployed this past summer to help us improve effectiveness on how we route product. And it's helping us on improving how much we put on a truck, and it's actually helping us to optimize the lanes that we select. And in the quarter, you know, on a base rate perspective, we saw around 80 basis points of benefit from a delivery perspective. We can't assign all of the benefit to TMS, but we know TMS is really driving a majority of that. So at this point, I'm comfortable saying that from a TMS perspective, we're going to exceed the $1 million to $2 million target that we set this year. And going into next year, we expect to be at that $4 to $5 million run rate and potentially even higher. We're really happy with what we're seeing on this technology. you know in terms of the delivery fee that we took we took that as a reminder in June and that was on all written orders starting in June and it takes a few a couple of months for it to flow through so we're starting to see that flow through benefit and that will come to full maturity in Q1 of next year and I think that was around a five million dollar annualized impact and between that and the TMS benefits, we're hoping that that will offset a lot of the fuel surcharges that we're seeing. You know, the other thing that we don't talk about, but it's also an economic impact I want you guys to be aware of is, you know, there's been a lot of mention in the press around just ocean containers. And I just want to squeeze this into your question because, you know, we buy, you know, $6,000 to $7,000 of containers a year, and the costs on those containers have gone up, and availability has been challenged. In fact, our supply chain team has really been doing a great job of managing through what's been a very challenging shipping situation, particularly in places like India and Vietnam, where container availability has been a backlog. So even if you're willing to pay spot prices, availability has been a challenge. The good news is we're starting to see it loosen on availability and spot prices are starting to moderate a little bit. But our latest forecast is when you sort of run through what we've seen year-to-date September and what we got forecast for Q4, you know, we're expecting of $5 million to $6 million, just a rate impact from this past year. Now, all that flows into inventory as part of our landed costs, and that will flow out into next year. But this is the kind of stuff that we're taking into account when we forecast out next year, so when you put all this together, we took some price increases in October in large reaction to some of these headwinds we're talking about between ocean freight and fuel surcharges and other that all of that but when you look at next year's margin profile uh despite the fact that we're not going to have you know a big refund in our numbers we're we're hoping to you know target a gross margin uh with a four handle on it not a three handle so more to come on our q4 call but we're really pushing hard. And John has really pushed the teams on protecting margins. And I've seen him in action on all these decisions as well. So, we're aligned as a management team. It's really just about executing. Thank you. Our last question will be from Andrew Carter with Stifle. Please proceed with your question. Hey, thank you. Good morning. I just want to clarify something real quick. You did say earlier in the call that you expected written to be 15 points below demand. You were guiding to 6% to 12% comparable sales growth in the fourth quarter. That, by my math, who knows, that would be minus 9% to minus 3% written sales in the fifth quarter, which is down from 13% in September. You also have pricing going into place. So is that just a conservatism in your guidance, or is there a significant breakdown starting in October or something in comparison, something to worry about, something with demand conversion, higher cancellation rates, anything? Thank you. Yeah, Andrew, and the numbers I was quoting around the ratio between written and delivered was not off of our comp basis. It was off of total because that's the total business. we don't get into monthly disclosures but we're we're pretty happy with with with October results it's been in many ways a continuation of the strength that we've been seeing so we'll leave it with that for now but you know we're really confident with the guidance that we're putting out for Q4 and getting back to the earlier question in terms of you know what's going to drive low end of the range versus the high end it's really going to be our ability to get the deliveries out over the next six to seven weeks. It would still be negative demand in the fourth quarter, even off the top, though, then, which is what's in the guidance. Yeah, we're not forecasting a negative comp for Q4. I mean, delivered is what I'm saying. Delivered written would still be negative off that 15-point commentary. Yeah. We're not broadcasting a negative comp for written or delivered in Q4. Okay, thank you. All right, thank you. Thank you.
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