Infinity Natural Resources Third Quarter 2026 Earnings Call - INFINITY NATURAL RESOURCES INC

Hello everyone, thank you for joining us and welcome to Infinity Natural Resources third quarter 2026 earnings call. After today's prepared remarks, we will host a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 to raise your hand. To withdraw your question, press star one again. I will now hand the conference over to Tom Marchetti, Vice President of Investor Relations. Tom, please go ahead. Thank you, Operator. Good morning, and thank you for joining Infinity National Resources' third quarter of 2026 earnings conference call. With me today is Zach Arnold, our President and Chief Executive Officer, and Carrie Bates, Infinity Executive Vice President and chief financial officer. In a moment, Zach and Carrie will present their prepared remarks with a question and answer session to follow. An updated investor presentation has been posted to the investor relations section of our website, and we may reference certain slides during today's discussion. A replay of the call will be available on our website later today. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that today's call may contain forward-looking statements. All statements that are not historical facts are forward-lookings statements. Forward-looking statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties, many of which are beyond our control, that could cause actual results to differ materially of these forward-looking statements. Please review our earnings release and the risk factors discussed in our SEC filings. We will also be referring to certain non-GAAP financial measures. Please refer to our earnings released and investor presentation for important disclosures regarding such measures, including definitions and reconciliations to the most comparable GAAP financial measure. that, I will turn the call over to Zach. Thank you, Tom, and hello, everyone. We appreciate you joining us to review Infinity Natural Resources third quarter results. We are almost three-quarters since closing our Ohio acquisition, and it is a good moment to take stock. The assets are integrated into our operations. We have growing production, we are putting more volume through our midstream system, and we are delivering the synergies we outlined. Just as important, we have the team, the balance sheet, and the platform in place to act on the next opportunity that meets our underwriting criteria. That progress is visible in our third quarter results, where we continued to execute on our playbook and delivered both record production and adjusted EBITDA. In the third quarter, our oil volumes came in ahead of our expectations, increasing 79% year over year to approximately 14,000 barrels per day. Our total volumes averaged nearly 432 million cubic feet equivalent per day, which is a 100% increase from the prior year. Higher volumes in a favorable oil mix drove adjusted EBITDA of nearly $138 million. We also brought our controllable cash costs down sequentially on a per-unit basis. Consistent with expectations, our per-Unit GP&T costs declined as more volumes moved through our own midstream system. On the marketing front, our RECZ Zone 3 contract is starting to highlight its value. Most of our Ohio gas and over half of our total gas is sold into markets served by this pipeline, which we expect to give us a meaningful uplift relative to local and basin prices. As we continue to develop our portfolio, we remain very encouraged by the opportunity to scale our upstream assets on a midstream system with substantial available capacity. The system has approximately one BCF per day of throughput capacity, enough to support our organic growth with room for third-party volumes as well. About 70% of our gross operated natural gas volumes already flow through it, and utilization of almost 35% continues to move higher, with incremental volume lowering our per-unit cost. That capacity gives us a long runway to grow, both organically and through strategic acquisitions that add volume to the system and lower our cost structure. Our conviction in the long-term value these assets continues to strengthen. Taken together, our strategy remains unchanged. We continue to execute the disciplined growth plan we have outlined, scaling production, increasing utilization of our integrated midstream system, maintaining capital efficiency, and lowering controllable costs, all while focusing our capital on our highest return opportunities. As you saw in our earnings release, we now expect to spend at the lower end of our capital guidance range and to produce at the higher end of our production guidance range for 2026. Both are within our initial 2026 guidance ranges. We have continued to be efficient with capital allocation, even as cost pressures increased, primarily from diesel and stimulation cost increases, while delivering a higher liquids mix. We took advantage of our flexible portfolio by reducing gas development and increasing oil development in a very favorable oil price environment to drive record-adjusted EVA decks. Turning now to a summary of our third quarter operations. Our field and operations teams had a very productive third quarter, and I want to thank them for the work behind these results. We have continued to deliver strong operational execution with optimized laterals and consistent in-zone geosteering, which increase reservoir exposure and value capture for well we recently drilled our longest lateral at nearly 24 000 feet all of which was done with a single bit on to the deep dry gas you could go recall that we split our well in the second quarter and then in mid-october we concluded stimulation activity we've taken a measured pace to collect subsurface data along the way including full core analysis across the entire utica and point pleasant energy we look forward to bringing the well online and sharing more information in due course turning to synergies for 2026 we expect to capture more than our previously announced 25 million dollars of cost and capital savings we are developing the utica assets we acquired earlier this year with our own operating model on pads and midstream infrastructure that are largely already in place and that is where the benefits of the acquisition begin to show up the largest contributors have have come from development optimization. By drilling from existing pad locations and redesigning well boards, we eliminated vertical sections, their associated production equipment, and the construction of multiple new pads. That also removed the facilities, pipeline interconnects, and waterline interconnects those pads would have required, all with a rig move and the related trucking. We also connected our existing water withdrawals to the acquired water delivery system, which lowers our per barrel water costs across this year and the future completions. We believe that our REX contract will be a meaningful contributor. When you look at the basis differential between M2 or Dominion South and REX Zone 3, the firm transport capacity we acquired on REX to Zone 3 should be a valuable asset. It gives us more marketing flexibility and should improve our natural gas realizations. We added a new slot to our earnings deck helps explain this competitive advantage. Beyond acquisition-related synergies, we continue to find ways to lower capex and improve returns across our operations. Within completions, we are reducing costs by optimizing our completions fluids designed by field. On the production side, we have been able to improve well returns by installing capillary strings as an alternative to production tubes. Given the cost inflation in 2026, we are further evaluating ways to reduce our diesel cost exposure including dual fuel utilization on our drilling rigs and fractures ultimately our plan is built on returns we have a diversified portfolio of projects that clear our return threshold giving us the flexibility to adjust activity as returns dictate as we have shown in the past development remains our first priority for capital followed by acquisitions and leasing where we look for opportunities that deepen in our drilling inventory, add scale, and put more volumes through our midstream system. We stay disciplined, putting every opportunity through a rigorous evaluation, and letting capital follow returns, not commodity prices. With that, I'll turn the call over to Kerry. Thanks, Zach. I'm delighted to join you for my first earnings call with INR. I have very much enjoyed my first couple of months in the seat and working alongside a great group of colleagues. As we look ahead, an important priority will be continuing to build on the strong financial foundation we've established and ensuring our organization is positioned to support the next phase of growth. To that end, we've added depth to our leadership team with the addition of an SVP of finance and a VP of corporate development, while continuing to evolve our financial processes and capabilities as the business scales. Alongside organic growth, strategic acquisitions remains a core component of our long-term strategy. Having the right team and capabilities in place is critical to executing that strategy successfully. Our focus will remain on pursuing opportunities that enhance the quality and scale of our asset base, while maintaining the financial discipline that protects our balance sheet and preserves a clear, compelling investment season. We also recognize the importance of scale, not only in driving greater operating efficiencies and economies of scales, but also in expanding our public flow and improving the accessibility of our shares to a broader institutional investor base. Ultimately, our objective is to grow thoughtfully, maintaining financial flexibility, and continuing to build a business that can deliver sustainable value for our shareholders. Turning to our results, third quarter adjusted EBITDAX was $138 million, or $3.47 per MCFE compared to $3 and 62 cents per MCFD in the second quarter. Higher volumes, a favorable liquid mix, and relatively strong realizations, higher utilization, and lower per unit costs all contributed. We saw our controllable cash cost decline 8.2% sequentially from $1.58 per MCFD in the second quarter to $1,45 per MCFP in the third quarter. This reflects the structural advantage of our integrated midstream system and the meaningful operating leverage of our platform. As production volumes grow, we are leveraging existing infrastructure and available capacity to drive greater efficiencies. with midstream utilization increasing from 29% in the second quarter to approximately 35% in the third quarter. Importantly, GP&T expenses per MCFE declined 12% sequentially, even as liquid productions increased. Our ability to reduce GP&P expenses per NCFE, despite this inherent cost headwind demonstrate the differentiated value of our integrated midstream system and reinforces our ability to expand margins as production continues to grow. Now turning to the balance sheet, we ended the quarter with net leverage of 1.1 times. We have no near-term debt maturities and no borrowings outstanding under our revolver credit facility at the end of the quarter. We end of the period with approximately $900 million of liquidity. We also recently completed our fall redetermination with our bank group, with our borrowing base being reaffirmed. Turning to risk management, our hedging philosophy is unchanged. We hedge at the project level, and we do so methodically to help ensure that we can deliver on all of our growth plans. Our focus remains on project returns while using hedges to protect our cash flows. As a result, our returns are less sensitive to commodity price movements, and we have strong visibility of our cash flows to support our organic growth plan. Finally, on 2026 guidance, we have narrowed our guidance and now expect net production to fall in the high end of the range and average between $355 and $375 MMCFE per day. Similarly, we expect development capital expenditures, which are a combination of drilling and completion and midstream capital expenditures to be in the range of $450 to $475 million. That's it for me, and now back to Zach to conclude our opening remarks. Thanks, Kerry. Before we open the line, I want to leave everyone with a few key takeaways. We've spent a lot of time this year talking about the opportunity embedded in our platform and the value we believe we can unlock through disciplined execution. We have told you previously what to expect from this business, and this quarter, we delivered it. We demonstrated our ability to improve the performance of the upstream assets we acquired while working on maximizing our midstream infrastructure to drive down per-unit costs and capture stronger realizations through our firm transportation capacity. All of this translated to record production and adjusted EBITDAX. And most importantly, we continue to build a team that focuses on safety, efficiency, growth, and value creation. These results reinforce the differentiated value of our integrated growth-focused platform, and we're just beginning to unlock that potential. We're going to continue to let our execution and results speak for themselves. Operator, you may now begin the Q&A session. We will now begin the question and answer session. Please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 to raise your hand. To withdraw your question, press star one again. We ask that you pick up your handset when asking a question to allow for optimum sound quality. If your muted locally, please remember to unmute your device. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Scott Hanold with RBC. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Scott Hanhold, RBC Yeah, thanks. Good morning. It looks like that midstream is starting to really show the value, and so it looks like that utilization of both REC's contract and infrastructure keeps increasing. Could you give us a little bit of color on, as you enter the winter, your ability to kind of scale that utilization to premium markets? What does this do to realizations and GPT costs? If you could just give us a sense of the range of potential outcomes and benefits there. Yeah, Scott, this is Kerry. There were a couple of questions there. Let's see if I answer them all, and if not, Zach will fill in the rest. But I think from a REC's point of view, the idea is we're going to maximize the value of that contract. We're doing so today. We look to be doing that for the foreseeable future. obviously that you can kind of see on a daily differential the improvement pickup we get with that contract it can cover roughly north of 10 percent of our total production volume on a on a gas basis point of view so it is meaningful across the board from a gp and t point of view doesn't has a doesn't have a substantial impact on that i think more importantly on gp and T. It's really where are we producing? What's the volume coming out? If we're heavier on oil or liquids, obviously GDP and T expenses go up. If we'RE heavier on dry gas, we'll see GP and T expenses go down. So I think really that can be bearable on a quarter-to-quarter basis, depending where our volumes are. But overall, I think, again, the RECS contract has been very good. It's been very accretive to us. We'll continue to maximize that until we start seeing end-based and differentials getting to a point where that contract's probably not as strong as it was. But today, it's meaningful to us that I get everything I think, Scott. Yeah, just kind of curious if you could kind of range-bound the potential benefits into the winter, what you're seen today given given the spreads? Yeah, I think from it on a on a net net basis, if you count an idea of including transportation costs, you're probably looking somewhere between 15 to 25% net pickup improvement versus in basin when you count transportation on that as well. So carrying that through throughout throughout the quarter, as obviously, We're seeing in-basin differentials for the winter months coming down, so that narrows the gap a little bit. But I think 15% to 25% or 25 cents per is probably a decent enough range. Okay, I appreciate that context. And as my follow-up on production, you obviously raised to the high end of your full-year guidance, But, you know, you did outperform quite a bit in 3Q, and I guess the implied 4Q, you know, was a little bit soft relative to street consensus. Can you give us a sense of some of the moving parts on that? Is that just timing of the tills that you did in 3q impacting 4Q? Yeah, I think that's a great question. This is Zach. When we started reconsidering our development schedule early in the year to react to oil price movement, that just has a little bit of a ripple effect on turn-in-line timing. In Q3, we really saw the benefit of full quarter contribution from early quarter turn-on lines. Q4, we haven't had our turn-out lines yet. They'll come in at the back of the quarter, and they'll have some ramp-up periods. So as we evaluate our individual well results, we continue to be very pleased as they meet or exceed our expectations. A company our size is always subject to timing, and we're really grateful that we were able to deliver the production the way we have to date. And our updated guidance reflects that. And anything that you're seeing in a Q4 dip is just related to timing. Understood. Thank you. your next question comes from the line of john annis with texas capital your line is open please go ahead hey good morning all and thanks for taking my questions for my first one maybe for carrie you're you're stepping into the cfo role as the company's delivering strong production growth and cost reduction and now that you've had some time in the seat i'm curious where you see the greatest opportunities to improve, I guess, the financial strategy, and is there anything that you expect to emphasize or focus on differently going forward? John, yeah, great question. Again, Zach and the team have done a great job of building a long-term sustainable business. I think a lot of it has to do with moving fast, and with moving fast means there are some things that get left behind we're working on improving processes but i think probably more importantly is focusing on data quality of data and getting them better dashboards so we can do things on a more proactive basis and giving the visibility so so we can make better business decisions quicker so i think that's going to be a biggest key that will provide us more efficiency and the business hopefully driving down costs reducing you know There's times where we have a rig sitting for a couple weeks as we're moving things around and all that. So getting things like that lined out will, again, improve efficiency, drive down the cost. But I think it's really visibility of the information to make better decisions on a proactive basis is one of the key items we're focused on now. Obviously, we talked about we're building up the team to help us on the corporate finance side and the business development side So we can get things where we're really looking at everything that we're prioritizing, what we're looking at. We're really driving down on how you create the value, where the value drivers are, how that helps us not only on an existing production, but helps us on the inventory side of the equation. So I think overall, from the accounting visibility side of the equation I've talked about, and then on business development and all that, it's just being able to do things where we're not just running in a hamster wheel, but we have things in a much more linear fashion where we can react quicker and also have the capital be able to move those in a fast way and move those quickly and give us a competitive advantage. Got it. I appreciate that, Culler. For my follow-up, looking beyond the acreage bolt-ons, what opportunities do you see to extend laterals and expand the inventory through either step-out drilling on existing pads, U-turns that some of your peers have highlighted this quarter, or other initiatives? And could any of those move current sub-economic locations into the development plan? Well, that's a great question. Thanks for asking it. I'll take it, probably touch on the first question a little bit, and then spend a little more time on the second part. But when you think about lengthening laterals, that is something that we think our ground game is really strong at delivering. That comes either through leasing, and we see opportunities to do that, and we've got some things in front of us today. But that also can come through trades. And as we continue to develop stronger and deeper relationships with our peers in the basin, trades can really help us optimize those laterals, too, because we've seen that the operations team can execute 24,000-foot-plus laterals. So that really allows us to continue to lengthen inventory that might be less economic than a longer well, particularly as we've seen some upward pressure on service costs with diesel and other things. But as far as some of the u-turns and other things we demonstrated in the script and on the and in the slides some of the synergies that we are delivering from the antero acquisition that we did and i think that really starts to drive home some of the uh the points that you were making and our team wants to be fast followers and quick adopters of of technology and all of those things have converged for some real savings here in q3 and into q4 we've already eliminated two pads from the construction that would have been necessary with the legacy development plan that elimination of construction also means for us because we control the midstream the elimination of pipelines and water lines and facilities and especially when you get into these liquids rich areas those facility costs can be quite expansive and then also the rig mobilizations that can come when we're able to use the same rig on the same pad we're already deployed to drill wells adjacent to us and all that is done with improvements to safety environmental timing all those risks go away when we're able to do what we delivered on this last quarter which is developing three wells that we were excited about drilling and noticing that adjacent to that was a unit that was had planned to be developed with shorter less economic wells so instead of building a new pad tying a pipe in and drilling four wells that would have been sub-optimal from a lateral length we drilled two u-turns off of an existing pad and went and captured that in a much more capitally efficient manner so all that combines to demonstrate that we are going to exceed the 25 million dollars of synergies we identified and we see lots of opportunities in the future as we rethink the development of this field and other fields as we continue to look across the m&a landscape great color i appreciate it i'll turn it back your next question comes from the line of john freeman with raymond james your line is open please go ahead thanks good morning guys i uh i just want to follow up on on scott's earlier question on on rex appreciate the uh the marketing slides and the presentation so it looks like just sort of backing into the the third quarter rex sales that uh y'all are utilizing just over half of that 300 that you've got on the FT on RECs, is the remaining capacity all available to accommodate y'all's incremental volumes, or were there any pre-existing sort of third-party arrangements when y' all acquired the Ontario assets? Yeah, there were no third-party arrangements. So we're able to either fill that with our own volumes or work with gas marketers to fill shortfalls that uh we've had in the early stages of our our development cycle but we anticipate that we'll be really maximizing that usage in 2027. guys uh and then my follow-up on uh on slide 11 y'all you know you detail all the the meaningful improvements you all had on the drilling completion side on uh you know lateral feet drilled per day the pumping hours per day on the the well cycle times i'm assuming that the 2026 relative 25 is just impacted by by larger pads um if that's true can you just sort of maybe quantify sort of that difference in this year versus 25 and then maybe what y'all are anticipating for kind of pad sizes in 27. now that's a great uh catch there and i wondered if someone was going to see we had a small tick up in uh cycle time so thanks john for for highlighting that we uh i think what you saw there was um a little bit of pad well count but it's also a function of facilities when we have more and more of these volatile oil wells like we've shifted to in 2026 takes a little bit longer for us to have some of the facilities and some of things put into place so we're still very proud of the the work that the teams do to minimize those think we can deliver really efficient cycle times. But occasionally, a project takes a little bit longer because of just the amount of equipment that's required. Got it. Thanks, Zach. Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Tim Resvin with KeyBank Capital Markets. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Good morning, folks. Thank you for taking our questions. I wanted to start and kind of follow up on the RECS discussions. Maybe this is for for carrie as you settle in the role here you know we can see sort of the benefits um to realizations you know from this antero acquisition the ft can you talk about any other sort of aspirations you have to sort of support uh marketing efforts to further drive realizations is there anything you you see on the horizon or do you think just maximizing that um that ft is is you know that the majority of the opportunity in the near term thanks yeah tim i think in the near term obviously maximizing but then you have the the power gen side the equation it'll be something that that i think people be looking forward as we go into 27 28 and 29 so you know nobody knows what's going to happen around the data center side of the world and all that but again i think you'll still see capacity coming online it may not be as enthusiastic as people originally thought but i think we're going to see a continued increase in power gen and that will provide us more opportunities in basin to be able to maximize okay so you're starting to look into those now is that what you're saying yes yes sir okay okay i appreciate that the context and as my follow-up um when you all hosted everybody last month at your sell-side rig tour you know i believe the commentary was that you're open to you know to increasing your your footprint anywhere you know within that sort of area that ohio west virginia pennsylvania area so maybe zach can you talk about kind of what you're seeing from an m a perspective maybe looking at the gassy and the oily acreage separately thank you a great question tim thank you and i think first and foremost before you get into m a deeply you need to make sure you have the balance sheet in place and carrie's been helpful in managing that and also the team to evaluate it carrie talked in his opening remarks about some of the expansion we've had at that team level to make sure that we have the right people in the right places to help us analyze things because we have a benefit at inr and that we haven't operating experience across the entire basin we're somewhat agnostic as to where the deals fall but that also means we need to be able to analyze and evaluate things across the entire base and quickly and kerry touched on systems and processes and i think we're we're going to be focused here near term on making sure that we can evaluate deals faster than our competitors and make sure that We can do deals that work well for us and for us it needs to be accretive on a long-term basis and it needs To stack in well and help us with either production volumes or inventory depth or midstream utilization and now that we've got the midstream piece it gives a another flavor to consider when we evaluate M&A but as far as where we see deals going you know this basin is always a little bit interesting when you see the deal pipeline but we'll continue to participate in public processes across the entire basin oily or gas we'll also look for private uh processes where we can maybe uh find an asset that is a is a better fit for us than the the current owner and see if we can negotiate something there but in the meantime we remain poised and ready and we will be very um conservative in our underwriting cases to make sure that the investments we make are not scale for scale sake that it is going to be a creative door shareholders i appreciate the context thank you your next question comes from the line of michael shallow with stevens your line is open please go ahead hi good morning uh zach you mentioned uh in your prepared remarks about uh some expectations on on inflation diesel and i think you said stimulation costs moving up and you also uh mentioned you're looking at potentially dual fuel rigs and fleets just want to see what you're thinking if you could throw out any numbers in terms of even high level inflation for next year that we should be thinking about and where you stand with uh getting those uh e-fleets or dual fuel rigs now a great question and i think it's something where we're focusing a lot of energy as we wrap up the year and are focused on the 2027 budgeting cycle i give the operations team a ton of credit because we were able to reduce the high end of our capex guidance despite these issues that are prevalent in the market i think if you ask people for the top three impacts on costs it's diesel diesel and diesel and as such you know we're curious as to what the diesel pricing will do into to 2027 but we told the team that their job is to to counter act that through efficiencies and through optimization of processes and they've answered that bell so far so i think we're optimistic that we will minimize those impacts into 2027 and we are now at a scale in we can negotiate longer term contracts with people that will help and we're we're finalizing those so i can't give specific um guidance on what type of uh budget impact that we'll have but i can say that we're very well positioned to counteract the the market forces here while we continue to optimize and become more efficient with our development program that sounds good and just I guess staying on thoughts on next year, should we be thinking about something similar at this point? I realize it's too early to give guidance, but something similar from a high level to the two-rig plan that you're running this year for next year. And I guess along that too, is Deep Utica going to be part of the 27 plan or do you need to just kind of watch this well and watch where gas prices go before you make a decision there yeah i'll michael this carry i'll take over at least the first part of that and i'll dive into the second part of it but the answer for right now is i think uh from a modeling point of view i would continue to say look at 27 to be similar to 26 at this point in time uh obviously we're still in the budgeting process So I don't want to get up and over our skis as Zach just pointed out. I think the other thing we need to think about is where does cost inflation versus efficiency? But I think right now we do think efficiencies can offset most of the cost inflation that we're going to see on the service cost of the equation. From a deep dry gas Utica point of view, obviously we're very excited about that well coming online. I think your second part of that question was correct. I think depending on how the outlook is for gas prices for 27 will impact the timing of the next wells coming online. We're not looking to curtail anything that we can curtail through our CapEx dollars and the timing with our CapX dollars based on it. But again, we're very optimistic and excited about that well coming online, also from my line point of view we have i think 66 locations so we give them 65 more locations which obviously is a meaningful addition to our inventory and our nad and those are other things that we're looking at from that opportunity as well but i don't know exactly you want to add anything to that no you covered great appreciate the details guys thank you thank you your next question comes from the line of paul diamond with city your line is open please go ahead uh thank you good morning all thanks for taking the call um so earlier this year you guys shifted a bit more towards the oil side versus gas on uh production timing given current market realities can you talk about any any shift you're seeing is there any anything in the market that would make you kind of shift backwards or is the this cadence kind of what we should carry it forward great question paul thanks for asking that's good to connect this morning um i think obviously our cadence for 2026 is established and set in stone uh as we look at 2027 things change quickly you know there are world factors that impact uh commodity prices so we're taking that into consideration as we finalize our budget and our development views for 2027. i think generally speaking what we've approached in the past is starting from a place of balance in which we develop both oil and gas locations and then you might see us tilt a little bit and try to optimize whichever commodity we think we can hedge and be a little stronger so uh year over year we may be a little less flexible as we just get bigger and each of those projects have a smaller impact but for today we're happy with the way we allocated capital in 2026 and we're actively reviewing the 2027 development program to make sure that we can optimize shareholder value paul this is carrie i'll add one one comment onto that the 2027 budget is going to be a little different budgeting cycle for us we are building up from a bottoms up looking at each project on an economic basis so i think we're really going to be economics driven from our 2027 budgets so and that may that may change how we how we how we allocate the capital based upon the economics of each individual project so i think once we get into a 27 we'll have a pretty good outlook of what we're going to do for the year where we're gonna do it and obviously from our hedge fund point of view gives us some flexibility as well uh from visibility to the cash flows but i think a little different budgeting cycle than what we've done in the past and it gets back to my early comments about better data better transparency visibility and proactive for the business so i think those are the things we're work now. Got it. Appreciate the clarity there. Just one quick one on just talking about Utica development a bit over the last several quarters. You talk about any design differences versus the prior operator? Is it, I know you've talked about mainly profit loading, but has there been any other, I guess, lesson learned with a couple of quarters under your belt? Yeah, and if you're focused specifically on the acquired Utica assets, I think we were basically backing up and taking a fresh view of the asset and the right way to develop it. So today, what we've delivered on so far are a couple of U-turn wells that we think were the most capably efficient way to develop some adjacent, somewhat stranded acreage. I think that's a place where we've seen capital savings i think we've also so that that's a savings component i think we're also investing more in some of the completions than the legacy operator did where we've increased water per foot and sand per foot so sometimes you spend more to make more and that's the case there and what we're demonstrating uh on slide 12 was really our ability to do that the more in intense stimulation design but do so faster than the previous operator so puts us in a position in which we can do more in fewer days and really help us tighten up those cycle times but um we acquired those assets from a world-class operator so there's that means you there's some things that have been done very well we're just able to take a fresh view and look for some opportunities to optimize casing designs and incompletions designs to to make the the projects our own understood appreciate your time over the deck Thanks, Paul. We have reached the end of the Q&A session. I will now turn the call back to Zach Arnold for closing remarks. Thank you all for another quarter here at INR. We appreciate your continued interest and investment in our company, and we look forward to catching up again next quarter. Thank you. This concludes today's call. Thank you for attending. You may now disconnect. Thank you.