Kraft Heinz Company Third Quarter Results - KRAFT HEINZ CO

Thank you for joining us today. Welcome to the Q&A session for our third quarter 2026 business update. During today's call, we may make forward-looking statements regarding our expectations for the future. These statements are based on how we see things today and actual results may differ materially due to risk and uncertainties. Please see the cautionary statements and risk factors contained in today's earnings release and our most recent SEC filings for more information regarding these risks and uncertainties. Additionally, we may refer to non-GAAP financial measures. Please refer to today's earnings release and the non-GAP information available on our website for a discussion of our non-gap financial measures and reconciliations to the comparable GAAP financial measure. I'll now pass it over to our Chief Executive Officer, Steve Cahillane, for a few opening comments. Good morning, everyone. Before we open the call for questions, I want to take a moment to highlight this morning's announcement regarding the definitive agreement to divest our North American coffee business to One Rock. This is an important step in simplifying and strengthening our portfolio. With this transaction, we can concentrate our capital and management attention where we see the greatest potential for growth and where we can create the most value for our consumers, our customers, and our shareholders. I also want to acknowledge the people behind this business. These brands have a long and proud history with consumers, and that is a credit to the teams who have cared for them for over many, many years. Thank you for your dedication. We are confident these brands have bright future under One Rock's focused ownership, and we are demonstrating that confidence by owning a 30% non-controlling equity stake in the business, which allows us to share in their future success. With that, I'm joined by Andre Maciel, and we're happy to take your questions. operator please open the line for the first question thank you we will now be conducting a question and answer session if you would like to ask a question please press star 1 on your telephone keypad a confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue you may press star 2 if you'd like to remove your question from the queue for participants using speaker equipment it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys our first question comes from the line of Andrew Lazar with Barclays please proceed with your question great thanks so much good morning everybody Steve I know you recently spoke a little bit a couple weeks back about maybe some weakening category trends in sort of US retail but but delivered the North America business organic as planned you know even excluding the trade benefit so I'm wondering how you sort of square those two and what you're expecting in for Q regarding sequential improvement in U.S. retail, given I think that the percent of revenue gaining or holding share seemed to take a little step back sequentially this quarter. Yeah, Andrew, thanks for the question. You know, we did deliver a better result than our original plan, and you can see that on our narrowed top line guidance. And I think what you're seeing in terms of our share trajectory and our consumption trajectory is what you would expect based on the investments that we've made. We've leveled out in terms of where we are in terms of holding share. You know, we'll acknowledge that for certain. But if you think about the investments we're making, we're make those against the innovations that were in the pipeline from last year. So there's a lot of benefit that you'll see in the velocity, but there's not the same benefit that in total distribution points and the like. You'll see that really start to get kind of its next boost, if you like, in the first quarter, you know, spring of next year with the resets. We've got very constructive dialogues going on with our retail partners. They love the fact that we're making these investments. They like what they're seeing in brands like, you know, Kraft Mac and Cheese and Power Mac and Capri Sun that are benefiting from that. They like what their seeing in condiments. But as we, you know get into next year you'll see we'll have a you know a plan to actually grow TDPs and you'll that next level of you know improvement starting next year and that's exactly as we expected it great now I'm just thinking of a really oh yeah mm-hmm keep going Andre but it I know just to give a little more color as well first give credit inside North America to us away from home in Canada they both grew low single-digit in the quarter again so which is great and encouraging to see that consistency. On U.S. retail, to your point, it did come a little better despite having probably more pressure from retailer inventory than we expected. So we mentioned 80 bps less in last earnings. There was a little more impact than that, but the consumption came a little bit better. The category has indeed softened the way you're expecting so was about in our portfolio mix suggested about 50 pips softer but just to maybe adjust a little bit what you said in the quarter our percentage of revenue gaining share has improved a little b2 went from roughly 25 in the first half to 28 it's not a great improvement but still another step in in the right direction so which i think helps you offset they had the way we saw in the inventory and i know it's too early to talk about uh 27 and maybe Maybe we'll get more of that sort of next week. But just with expected higher inflation, a higher year-over-year tax rate next year, maybe some of the incremental investment this year likely to still be a year-or-year headwind next year. I guess, are there any other key puts and takes we should consider? And maybe what sort of opportunities do you have to help mitigate some of these items, again, as we go into 27? Thanks so much. Yeah, I think, you know, as мы think about 27, we'll give more guidance than we normally would at an investor meeting next week, We'll talk more color about 27 next week, but we are seeing more inflation. I mean, I think everybody's seeing that. Our first line of defense is always productivity, and we're stepping up that productivity. As we think about price, you know, we want to take as little price as possible because of the consumer dynamic, but price is likely to have to be taken in 27 for sure. And as I mentioned earlier, you Know, we're very bullish about the investments that we've made, and the fact that we will get better returns on those investments after the spring resets. And we'll, again, talk more about that next week at our investor meeting, which I hope many of you will be able to attend. Thanks so much. Our next question comes from the line of Nick Mody with RBC. Please proceed with your question. Yeah, thank you. Good morning, everyone. Steve, I was hoping you can talk about away from home. You know, we've been hearing from some other companies, there's been some pressure from away from home, but obviously you had a very good quarter there. So just wanted to get some more context. Is this something you think you can muscle through some of this weakness simply because you have these new partnerships and you're really leaning in? Any context on that would be helpful. And then just kind of wanted to follow up on one of Andrew's questions regarding market share. You talked about better shelf resets next year, but something that we're picking up across a lot of different categories, how retailers are really kind of rethinking the aisle generally. And I'm just curious if you've seen that, have had conversations with retailers around that, given how big you are as a supplier to many of your retailers. Thank you. Yeah, thanks, Nick. So in a way from home, most of our, if not all of our success this last couple of quarters has been through share gains. And a lot of that is based on the partnerships that you referenced, you know, the NFL and Disney are just really starting and proving to be quite valuable. We're taking share, we're gaining new distribution across not only ketchup, but also the other condiments. So we're feeling very good about our away-from-home performance. And as we look to the consumer recovering in 27, if we continue to gain share and the category itself gets a little bit of tailwind, it's a great place for us to be. So global away-From-Home grew nicely, and North America away from home grew nicely. So we're feeling very good about that. In terms of the North American retail and the way they're thinking about the aisles, we're involved in a lot of very constructive conversations around just that. How do you revitalize and how do you make the aisle more interesting? I wouldn't say there's anything dramatic in the offing for 27, but we're square at the table with those conversations. And I think part of that is we punched that ticket when we made the investment of $600 million, now $700 million, and was very bullish about, you know, we're going to grow. We want to be a tailwind for our retailers, not a headwind. And part of that comes through innovative thinking about how we make the aisle more dynamic, more interesting, how we bring more innovation, how we drive more traffic. So that is clearly a conversation that we're engaging you know up and down with our retailers our next question comes from line of Thomas Palmer with JP Morgan please proceed with your question good morning thanks for the question I wanted to ask on the the timing item you'd noted as it relates to operating profit in the quarter the 450 basis points of help relative to your expectation from trade and marketing what caused the timing shift was there anything more tactical on your end to kind of think about and and then just to clarify you would look for this to be fully made up for in 4q or is there a bit of a change in trade for the year as well thank you sure thanks for the question nothing in particular it's just the way the programming ended up working so we have by end of q3 spent roughly 70 percent of the of the trade and the market investments planned for the year three years today to have already accrued in the panel 6.1 percent of marketing so we're gonna we are pacing that so so we and we there is no intention to change our plan whatsoever so we do have historically our market share peaks in thanksgiving and christmas so we decided to concentrate more of the efforts to to the q4 so nothing beyond that understood thank you our next question comes from the line of max gumport with bnp paribas please receive with your question hey thanks for the question one of the focus on your your market share performance in u.s retail so previously when you announced these investment plans you discussed how you expected to see meaningful results in the second half you expected to see a bend in the trend even in market share you could acknowledge you're a bit behind that schedule um but you know you're also saying things are playing out exactly as you expected and you now accept a meaningful step up next spring you just maybe pride a bit more color on on why it does seem like market share has perhaps not really shown the progress you initially expected to see in the U.S. and then give a bit more color on why your main cost is that next year. Thanks very much. Yeah, thanks, Mac. I remind you that, you know, we've never and we won't give market share forecasts, but our top line in North America and globally is moving better than we anticipated at the start of the year. And there's categories where we're doing better than we expected, and there's categories where we are acknowledging we are doing not as well as we expected. One of the not as-well-as-expected is clearly in Philly cream cheese. And it's an interesting one because we're gaining share, but we're losing consumption because the category is under pressure. And some of the pricing moves that we made proved to be deflationary to the category, so they didn't work, and so we're adjusting. And so I'd say broadly speaking, the fact that we bent the trend and we're holding that, improving it very modestly is a better place to be than the opposite. And we've also said all along that progress would not be linear, andso we reserve the right to continue to get smarter, to make the reinvestments and move things around as we see what's working and what's not working. Andso as we study our market share and we study our North American retail performance, what we've seen is we're gaining velocity and we're improving velocity against smaller shelf sets because we lost distribution last year and we had an innovation pipeline that was based on the underinvestments of the years past. But we looked at that pipeline and said, you know, what could work for us? We think Kraft Mac and Cheese Power Mac could work. So we leaned into that. We thought Capri Sun Hydrate could work, we leaned into that. We thought Arita and Shapes and some of those things, you know, were good, so we leaned into that, and what we're looking forward to is the investments that we've made this year and the pipeline that we built this year for next year will prove to be more beneficial to us, and so non-linear but good progress, and we're feeling good about, you now, where we are from a top-line perspective. We're feeling great about the constructive discussions we're having with retailers about next year. And so that's kind of where we stand. We're feeling good about the innovation pipeline for next year, you know, if you look at one example of what's happening in Canada, we introduced KD Ramen, and it literally, we sold three months of inventory in a week, and great innovation, we're going to bring that to North America next year and so, you know, we'll continue to hold ourselves accountable for market share and for consumption growth and we're feeling okay about where we are right now and we are feeling better about what we are building for next year. Thanks very much. I appreciate all the detail. Our next question comes from the line of Peter Galvo with Bank of America. Please proceed with your question. Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking the question. Andre, I know you mentioned that inflation maybe could still be higher into 27. I think last call you had provided kind of some early thoughts on, I think, 4% to 5% inflation guidance for 2027. I didn't see an update on that today, so I was just hoping to get some clarification there. And obviously, on some of the raw materials, we've seen some deflation. So just curious kind of where you're falling in that band for next year. Thanks very much. Sure. As Steve said, we're going to provide a little more color on 2027 next week. But I can tell you on inflation that we previously said in the prior call, we're expecting 45% next year, the expectation is now slightly above 5%. So we continue to see, on one hand, more inflation coming from packaging and from certain commodities. Soybean oil remains a good item of pressure. We are having a lot of favorability this year from dairy, and we do expect some of that to reverse into next year, which will contribute to the year-over-year pressure. And that's why Steve mentioned a little while ago that even though productivity remains the first line of defense, and if you're good about the pipeline you have for next year, there will be an element of price across all regions, so we can protect our gross margins. Great, thanks very much. Our next question comes from a line of Leah Jordan with Goldman Sachs. Please proceed with your question. Great. Thank you for taking my question. I just wanted to follow up on the margin discussion. I know there's been a few questions different this morning, but you previously suggested this year should be a trough in margins. Your investments continue to play out, some working, some not. You know, you've called out a little bit higher input cost inflation. Just wanting to get an update on your confidence in that view, the high-level puts and takes we should keep in mind around the stability, or what would you call out as the biggest tailwind? Is it productivity at this point, or just kind of help clarifying that point? Thank you. So, what we have said is that the level of investment that we have deployed in the P&L this year, $700 million, we believe to be sufficient to turn around the business and deliver sustainable volume-led growth, and that's still the case. And we are investing – we will invest in the P&NL $700 billion, and next year that's expected to remain the same level. so there will be no margin decline driven by more investments required so that's important now with the elevator levels inflation and inflation um raising throughout the year just put the perspective this year our level of inflation is expected to be slightly more than four percent but in q4 is around six percent and which prompting us they need to price across the regions normally when you see rising inflation the pricing obviously comes with a lag and that lags puts temporary pressure on margins so we do expect to see this type of dynamic effectiveness but that's just temporary as price flows through the pnl um so again we're going to talk more about 2027 next week but i want you to understand these dynamics great thank you Our next question comes from the line of Michael Lavery with Piper Sandler. Please receive your question. Thank you. Good morning. You're obviously increasing the spending quite significantly this year, but you're also improving the ROI and ROAS. Can you maybe point to what's helping boost some of that effectiveness and efficiency? And is there more upside? Is it specific to certain brands or categories that could be transferred more broadly across the portfolio or from one geography to another? What's kind of driving that lift and is there more headroom to it? Yeah, Michael, thanks for the question. I'd say before I arrived, the company was making good progress in building capability around the efficiency of marketing spend. And the investments that we're making are not just in advertising, promotion, price. They're also in capability and people. So we continue to build on that capability. And technology continues to move forward rapidly in terms of our ability to understand in real time what we're getting returns for and what we are not. And I see continued upside in that. So the level of spending that we have as andre said we feel is is very sufficient and getting a better return on that in 27 versus what we got in 26 is uh in fact very realistic and something we're demanding of ourselves and so we feel good about the level of investment and we feel very good about the capability that we're building and our ability to get uh continued improvement in returns based on those investments yeah and more practically like if you look on trade investments like we have a very good visibility invested in capability in rgm for many years now and there are continuous have opportunities for us to improve certain promotional tactics sometimes moving dollars across brands and on the market in front there is opportunity to redeploy dollars across brands to a a certain extent and also improve the amount allocated to different media types. So we're going to speak a little bit about that next week as well, you'll hear more, but we feel confident about the ability to continue to improve a lot of the returns on those investments. Okay, great. Thanks so much. Our next question comes from the line of David Palmer with Evercore ISI. Please proceed with your question. Great. Thank you. you um wanted to ask you about the investments this year how much of that 700 million has been spent uh so far and do you think you're going to hit that number in calendar 2026 yeah as um good morning as i said a few minutes ago we we have spent around 70 percent of the price investments for the year and about the same for marketing investments we have at this point hired 80 percent of the the people that that we have planned and we expect to by the end of the year pretty much be hiring everyone that was previously anticipated so we will spend the 700 million dollars these years as you have said before there will be and we're going to put more money in marketing because we are not spending the whole money uh behind people right because of the natural ramp up next year there will be a little bit of carryover of people but we are deploying resources across the different levels and they do have a number of efficiencies on the sgna front further leveraging our shared services further leveraging automation so then any ramp up of people will be fully offset so but but again we we are spending 700 billion dollars in the pnl this year great thank you uh for that clarification i want to to just ask and you've talked a bit about some of the things that you're learning but if you had to sort of you know list the biggest things that you might do differently uh with the money that you were spending next year first of all do you envision it being similar in amount to this year but maybe just spent better and then why would it be better i guess there's going to be maybe some retailer resets maybe the quality of the innovation, maybe some things you're learning on the promotion activity, ROI, you know, any sort of proportions of why the ROI might be better, and thank you. Yeah, I'd say the ROI will be better simply because we're learning, right? We're learning about this incremental investment, what's working, what's not working. The most obvious example that we pointed out is the pricing on Philly cream cheese, which worked in brick but didn't work on tub, and, you why is that? And so we explore why that is and we learn from it. We reallocate that investment towards higher returning areas. You know, a lot of what we're spending on Heinz ketchup really working, what we'RE spending on kind zero really working. So, you know, it's just it's kind of as simple as that. We're learning what's working and we're spend more against that. And in terms of innovation, as I mentioned earlier, you KNOW, we had the innovation pipeline as it was. And so we allocated investment against where we thought there were winners. And I've mentioned some of those. We have a different innovation pipeline coming in 27, which we'll talk more about next week, which We Feel is significantly better than 26, still not sufficient. So we're going to get better even beyond 27 into 28. And so it's making sure that we're spending the appropriate amount of investment against R&D. We've increased our spend 20%. R&B spending and investment doesn't happen overnight, but it's building towards the future. And we feel good about getting closer to 1% of net sales as a ratio against R&D, more than 6% in sales and marketing. And so the investment is there. We feel the investment is sufficient, but its a learning curve that we're on. And it's a good place to be relative to anything else. So we feel good about 27 and the learnings that will apply based on 26 and onwards. Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Rob Dickerson with U.S. Bank Corp. Please proceed with your question. Great. Thanks so much. Steve, you know, obviously a couple comments on the call today about, you know, potential need to take some incremental price next year just to protect gross margin. I'm just kind of curious kind of how you're viewing let's say the overall marketplace right because like kind of you know the core tenant or one of the core tenants of the strategy longer term is like demand recovery right volume-led growth that's profitable sometimes you take price maybe it's harder to stimulate that demand especially when the consumer is but maybe that's less of a material event kind of if you know the entire marketplace does that so just kind of trying to you know gauge or get some color is kind of the thoughts on how that could play out yes if you if you study the syndicated data for this year you can see that we've been taking less price and we've said that all along the consumers in a fragile state and we want to take as little price as possible in order to meet the consumers where they are. When you look at what's happening in the fourth quarter of this year into next year, there's clearly more inflation. That's disappointing, but it's real. A lot of that is logistics. It's fuel-driven, some commodities, but it is real. Everybody is seeing COGS inflation. I do think you will see more pricing in 27, not less pricing. And so, as Andre already mentioned, and we say over and over, our first line of defense is against productivity, and will, you know, continue to ramp up our efforts against productivity. But I do feel like 27 will require price. You're seeing that from, you know, the, the peer set clearly. And so I think that's just the environment that we're going to be in and it will be, um, you know, kind of, you Know, we'll be in it with everybody. So it won't be a competitive advantage or disadvantage. It'll just be the situation that we have to face. Right. Fair enough. And then maybe just one quick. Hello. Go ahead. Go head. Oh, sorry. Uh, just a quick question. Um, on the meats business, you know that's clearly kind of been a little bit of a drag for you kind of for some time um obviously you know announced the divestment or i guess partial divest of coffee this morning um so just curious like you know is that is the meets business like you know kind of i guess broader question is like is that fixable you know like is is is the category itself a little disadvantage or you know this scenario where maybe you would consider kind of looking more in the justifiable reasons of keeping it, kind of like you've done with, you know, part of cheese and nuts and coffee. That's all. Thank you. Yeah, so, you Know, we'll continue to look for opportunities to make our portfolio a more growth-oriented portfolio, and you saw that today with the announcement around coffee. We feel very good about that. In terms of the meats business, you Now, Oscar Mayer, I would start with the strength of the brand. It is a phenomenal brand. So yes, it is fixable. There's areas where we've had some own goals, which we're fixing. It's improving quite a lot. So it stopped getting as bad, but that's clearly not sufficient. So there's still work to be done. We haven't innovated around the Oscar Mayer portfolio in ways that you'd expect. We have not addressed some of the concerns around the process nature of it. So there's a lot of things that we can do and we need to do around the Oscar business. But more broadly, I'd say we'll continue to look for areas where we can make portfolio improvements. Super. Thanks, Steve. Operator, we have time for one more question. Thank you. Our final question comes from the line of Scott Marks with Jefferies. Please proceed with your question. hey good morning thanks for squeezing us in here wanted to just come back to the cream cheese category in philadelphia um you know obviously part of the the win big bucket um talk about some of the price investments not working maybe redeploying some of that um just wondering if you can share a little bit about how you're thinking you know is that investment being redeployed to other parts of the business where you're seeing more traction are you putting it back into other areas of the Philadelphia business, just any thinking or update around, you know, how you're thinking strategically about driving improvements forward for that brand and that category. Thanks. Yeah, you Know, it's all fungible, obviously. And when we look at Philly, the pricing investment didn't work. But we just launched lactose free cream cheese. And so we're building distribution there. And I'd say what Philly needs from a category perspective is more innovation, because it's very clear where we're losing as a category. We're losing to cottage cheese and other more protein forward. So we need to do more innovation around what the consumer is looking for vis-a-vis protein, vis-à-vis flavors, vis vis overall innovation. And you'll see and we'll talk more about that in the future in terms of what that brand can do and what the category can do. The brand itself is an incredibly strong brand. So there's nothing wrong with the brand. It's just the categories under some pressure relative to switching out of cream cheese into cottage cheese and others, and that's very addressable, but it's going to take just a little bit of time. Appreciate it. Thanks. Thank you. We have reached the end of the question and answer session, and with that, the conclusion of today's call. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation, and have a wonderful day. 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