Sylvamo's Third Quarter 2026 Earnings Review - SYLVAMO CORP

Good morning. Thank you for standing by. Welcome to Silvamo's third quarter 2026 earnings call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's prepared remarks, you will have an opportunity to ask questions. If you would like to ask a question, press star one to raise your hand. To withdraw a question press star 1 again. As a reminder, your conference is being recorded i'd now like to turn the call over to hans bjorkman vice president investor relations sir the floor is yours thanks rebecca good morning and thank you for joining our third quarter 2026 earnings call our speakers this morning are john sims chief executive officer and don devlin senior vice president and chief financial officer slides two and three contain important information including certain legal disclaimers for example during this call we will make forward-looking statements that are subject to risks and uncertainties we will also present certain non-us gap financial information reconciliations of those figures to u.s gap financial measures are available in the appendix our website also contains copies of the earnings release as well as today's presentation before i turn the call over to john an important note on how we are presenting our results on slide four following the announcement we made earlier this morning our europe business is now reported as discontinued operations unless otherwise noted all figures in this presentation for current and prior periods are for continuing operations and exclude europe prior period results for our latin america and north america segments have been recast to include certain corporate costs previously allocated to to Europe. Approximately 6.5 million per quarter split roughly 60% North America and 40% Latin America. Recast historical information is also available in the appendix. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to John. Thank you, Hans, and good morning, everyone. I'm glad that you are joining our call. I'll move to slide five. This morning, we announced that we entered into a put adoption agreement with Midas Atlantic Partners in partnership with the Najafi companies for a binding offer to acquire our European business. We believe this potential transaction represents an important strategic step for our Europe business and Savama. In Europe, it would create the opportunity to move forward with an own experience in corporate carve-outs, and positioning businesses for long-term success. After the proposed transaction, Savamo will be a more focused company with greater ability to invest in our business, strengthen our performance, and pursue world-class excellence. We believe that focus will make us a stronger company and better position us to create sustainable value for our employees, customers, and investors. OUR LONG-TERM STRATEGY INVESTMENT THESIS IS UNCHANGED. WE ARE FOCUSING ON UNCODED FREE SHEET AND ATTRACTIVE MARKETS, WHICH WE BELIEVE NORTH AMERICA AND BRAZIL BOTH REPRESENT. WE ARE INVENTING IN LOW-RISK, HIGH-RETURN PROJECTS THAT STRENGTHEN OUR COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGES, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE DOING AT OUR EASTERN MILL, AND WE ARE LEVERAGING OUR STRENGHTS TO GENERATE HIGH RETURNS ON INVETTED CAPITAL. SLIDE 6 IS A SUMMARY OF THE PROPOSED TRANSACTION. WE NEED TO COMPLETE THE REQUIRED CONSULTATION PROCESSES WITH THE WORKS COUNCIL AND EMPLOYEE REPRESENTATIVES IN ACCORDANCE WITH LOCAL LAWS BEFORE SIGNING A SHARE PURCHASE AGREEMENT. WE EXPECT THE CONSultATION PERIOD TO BE COMPLETED and a transaction to close by the end of the first quarter of 2027, subject to closing conditions, including regulatory approval. At closing, we'll transfer our Europe business, which includes our mills in Syatt, France, and Numelo, Sweden, along with supporting forestry and business operations. With working capital of approximately 50 million euros and net cash of approximately 35 million euros. In exchange for the Europe business, Savamo will receive a right to 20% of any future distributions. Throughout this process, we will remain focused on operating safely and reliably serving our European customers. Let's move to slide seven and discuss our third quarter results. OUR THIRD QUARTER REFLECTS SOLID EXECUTION ON WHAT WE SAID WE WOULD DO. FIRST, WE CONTINUED TO IMPLEMENT THE UNCUTTED FREE SHEET PRICE INCREASES WE HAD PREVIOUSLY COMMUNICATED TO OUR CUSTOMERS ACROSS OUR REGION. SECOND, OPERATIONAL PERFORMANCE IMPROVED ACROST ALL OUR MILLS. SOUND EXECUCION OF OUR PLANNED MAINTENANCE OUTLETS WORK AND OUR LEAN TRANSFORMATION HELPED DRIVE THE OPERATIONAL IMPROOVEMENT IN THE QUARters. THE THIRD, LIKE MUCH OF THE ECONOMY, WE FACED HIGHER INPUT AND TRANSPORTATION COSTS. DON'S GOING TO GO INTO MORE DETAIL ON THIS LATER ON THE COST. LET'S MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE. THOUGHT EIGHT SHOWS OUR THIRDS QUARTER KEY FINANCIAL METRICS. ADJUSTED EBITDA NEARLY DOUBLED FROM THE SECOND QUARter TO $128 MILLION, A 20% MARGIN. Adjusted operating earnings were $1.33 per share. Trade cash flow was $16 million, a $32 million improvement from the second quarter. So with that, I'll turn it over to you, Don. Thank you, John, and good morning, everyone. Slide 9 contains our third quarter earnings bridge versus the second quarter. In the third quarter, we earned $128 million of adjusted EBITDA compared to $66 million in the prior quarter. Price and mix were favorable by $25 million, reflecting the implementation of paper price increases and better mix in both regions. volume was roughly flat and reasonably stronger demand in latin america was offset by lower volume in north america due to loss of supply from international papers uh riverdale mill operations and other costs were favorable by six million driven by improved operational performance planned maintenance outage costs were favorable by 38 million as we had no scheduled outages in the quarter. Input and transportation costs were unfavorable by $6 million as transportation costs are higher in both regions. Let's move to slide 10 to walk through the industry conditions. In Latin America, demand is seasonally stronger in the second half, which supports our volume and geographic mix. During the quarter, we implemented most of the price increases we had previously communicated to our export customers in other Latin American countries and in the Middle East and Africa. In September, Colombia canceled its anti-dumping duties on uncoated free sheet imports from Brazil, which restores access to a market we previously served. In North America, industry supply and demand remain healthy. The Riverdale paper machine conversion removed about 7% of annual industry supply and our extended Eastover outage of about 50 days is currently underway. We realize most of our price increases previously communicated to our customers during the quarter. Lastly, imports continue to increase year over year in both regions. The chart on slide 11 shows the New York Fed's Global Supply Chain Pressure Index. This index measures how far global supply chain conditions are from normal. It moved from about normal a year ago to well above its long-term average today. We are seeing this directly in our cost in both regions in three main areas, ocean freight with tire vessel availability and higher fuel prices, and inland transportation costs, higher diesel prices and fewer available truck drivers in the U.S. Inputs, chemicals, energy, and fiber all affected by persistently higher oil prices. In the third quarter, our input and transportation costs were $6 million unfavorable compared with the second quarter, and we expect a similar unfavorble amount when comparing the fourth to the third corner. These pressures are industry-wide, not specific to savamo we're pulling many levers to mitigate these costs such as our lean program our supply chain initiatives and fuel surcharges in north america let's move to slide 12. we're making good progress on our strategic investments at easter our flagship mill in north America we are about 60 percent through the execution of the paper machine optimization and it remains on schedule and on budget Once complete, it will add 60,000 tons of uncoated free sheet capacity per year with the ramp up starting early next year. Let's go to slide 13. After a strategic review, we changed the investment plans for our converting facility in Sumter, South Carolina, which serves our Eastover Mill. We decided to expand our converting capacity, enabling us to internalize most of the currently outsourced converting and replaced cut-size imports from our Brazil operations, which are no longer economically viable due to tariff changes. Our Sumter converting plant currently has three sheeters. The previous plan included replacing one existing sheeter with a new state-of-the-art sheeter. We now plan to keep three existing sheeters operational and add the new sheeter to the facility. When completed, Sumter will have four sheeters with a total of 500,000 tons of annual cut-size converting capacity, which is an increase of 200,000 ton from its current capacity. This capability will lower our converting and transportation costs and enhance our mix while improving service to customers. The new sheeter is planned to start up early in the third quarter of next year. This change will require us to invest about $25 million more to upgrade the infrastructure of the facility in 2027. However, it will also result in a higher projected annual earnings benefit. The overall investments for the paper machine optimization and new sheeter are still expected to generate higher than 30% IRR. I will now turn it back over to John to conclude prepared remarks. Thank you, Don. In my letter to shareholders in January, I committed that we would allocate capital wisely, focus on long-term value creation, and communicate transparently. We evaluate our position in Europe and have decided to focus our resources and capital in Latin America and North America, where we believe we have the best opportunity to earn returns above cost of capital and generate strong cash flow. We'll be focusing on setting a new standard for customer experience and loyalty, executing our strategic investments at Eastover, embedding lean continuous improvement across our operations and business, achieving best-in-class levels of efficiency, reliability, and performance in our mills and supply chain, adhering to our disciplined capital allocation principles, improving our social and environmental impacts every year. Our flagship growth strategy has not changed. We will continue to invest in low-risk, high-return projects that strengthen our uncoded free sheet capabilities and grow earnings and cash flow over time. I would like to close by recognizing that today we announced a big change for Sabamo, and I want to thank all our employees for their hard work and commitment, especially our teams in Europe. With that, I'm going to turn it over back to Hans. Thanks, John, and thank you, Don, as well. Okay, Rebecca, we're ready to take questions. We will now begin the question and answer session. Please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. Should you have further questions, you are welcome to re-enter the queue. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 to raise your hand. To withdraw your question, press star one again. We ask that you pick up your handset when asking a question to allow for optimum sound quality. If you are muted locally, please remember to unmute your device. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from Mike Roxland with Truist Securities. Please go ahead. Thank you, John, Dawn, and Hans for taking my questions, and congrats on the announcement. John, just wanted to follow up with you. You mentioned the letter and your closing remarks here at Daypad earlier this year. I mentioned 300 million of free cash flow on a normalized basis, or at least, excuse me, at least 300 million. Once the sale of Europe is done, how do you think about that target? And I realize the target is a floor. You didn't provide a range. So obviously there's an upside for starters, but could free cashflow be at least 400 million, 450 million, particularly once you get rid of Europe? That's the first part. And the second piece is now that you're approaching your target of 300 million plus. What do you intend to do with your free cash flow? Is it all going to head towards repurchasing stock? I think, Mike, the proposed sale of our European business was going to make Savamo a much more focused company, concentrated in the attractive North America and Latin America regions. We see the greatest opportunities to grow earnings and cash flow. So our East River investments are progressing. Our lean transformation is improving performance across our mills, you know, and our flagship growth strategy and dismal capital allocations are unchanged. So we're confident that we can continue to develop strong cash flow and grow that as we complete the transaction of our flip-flop change. But I'm going to tell you that we're going to share more about the long-term potential of our stronger Silvamo at the appropriate time. once we complete the proposed sale of the European business. To your second question, you know, our focus on our capital allocation strategy is unchanged. You know, first and foremost, we're going to maintain a strong balance sheet so that we can invest and continue to invest through the cycle. We will invest and continuing to operate or invest where we think there's opportunities to generate well above cost of capital returns and grow our cash flow. And then we're going to return it, the rest and the balance to shareholders. And we'll do that. You know, we do believe that a dividend is important to have that as a foundation. But we also believe that where there's opportunities, we'll be buying back our shares and we'll prioritize that. Gotcha. And just one quick follow-up. When you think about – can you help us frame, actually, an early bridge to maybe 2027 EBITDA from the larger bookends and giving some of the moving pieces this year? The way I think about it, it looks like you'll be at around $340 million of EBITda, roughly, give or take, for 2026. Once Europe is out, it's an add-back of roughly $75 to $90 million, Eastover $35 million benefit, fewer imports from Europe and Brazil, $65 million benefit. And then you have some of these one-offs that you incurred this year from weather, debarking at NMOLA, and reliability. So when you think about the progression from EBITDA this year to 2070, are you looking at a starting point of around $525 million, $550 million or so? Well, you know, to answer your question, we don't want to project out. Of course, there's a lot of unknowns between now and the beginning of 2028 in terms of the global economy's costs and inputs and things like that. I mean, I would think directionally, the way you've outlined it, those all make sense. What's unknown is what's going to occur in 2027, even from a geopolitical perspective. Awesome. Thank you. One thing. One thing I'll add, Mike, is relative to Eastover, as you were going through those numbers, the 75, 35, and 65, I think you referenced, I think, the 65, which we've talked about in the past as a non-repeat. And the way we're thinking about that, you know, we had a couple of components of that. We originally said 85 was a non-repeat, if you remember back in one of our previous earnings calls. That had several components. Europe was a component, for example. The volume was a compartment. The Eastover outage shut down itself. Extended outage was a component. And then we had another component for purchasing outside converting services. And so the way we think about next year, given what we're doing with the fourth sheet or volume, first of all, will be relatively flat for North America next year. So we don't see that 20 million component not repeating. And then we had our Eastover outage. Extended outage was 25 million of that. That would be something that we would expect as a one time that that won't repeat next year." But we think our converting costs as we, you know, work to the third quarter to start up this fourth sheeter will still incur some higher than normal converting costs well into 2027. So in a summary, I'd say we expect about $25 million of that, originally $85, take your about $65, so $25 of the $65 to come, not repeat next year. Very clear, Don. Thank you. Your next question comes from George Staphos with Bank of America. Please go ahead. Hi, everyone. Good morning. Thanks for the details. Question and congratulations on the news. Good luck with the process. So the Sheeter expansion in Sumter, can you talk to what the incremental cost will be? I think you just mentioned directly it's going to be an incremental negative. Can you talk about what that cost will be in 2027? And as I understood it correctly, this is all part of question one. At one point in time, I thought you'd be bringing in tons from Brazil. You can't do that now because of policy. What are you going to do with those Brazilian tons that have been displaced by the incremental converting that you'll be able to do at Sumter and that had a follow-on? Yeah, so, George, just to be clear, the $25 million is additional CapEx. Because we're not going to – originally, we had planned to shut down and replace the sheeter. Now we're adding a four-sheeter to the Sumter facility. So we've got to add infrastructure. You think about in terms of fire protection, dust systems, air, electrical. That's what the $24 million is. That's $25 billion is. and we expect that then to delay the startup of that new state-of-the-art sheeter until mid-year next year and what we're referring to is that we'll have to continue to outsource converting we have those customers now because you know we're providing those customers today but we're we're we're provided a cut size using outsourced converting which is expensive and that's where where the additional benefit comes from. Once that cheater is up and running, we'll avoid those outside converting costs. We'll be much more efficient internally to do that. For the Brazilian question you asked, we're doing that today. So we've stopped, you know, we were just able to briefly bring in cut size from Brazil to support this transition with Riverdale going down. But then when the additional tariffs were applied, that shut that off. And so that volume that we were importing in from Brazil is now going into other markets, other LATAM markets. And, you know, we're exporting that. We're seeing that today in our Brazilian business. Did that answer the question, George? It did. I guess just a point of clarification before I get to the other question. So I understand the $25 million is capital. Would it be fair to say initially as you're building out what you need for the new sheet or in the capacity there and the incremental cost you're going to have there, that's initially a negative? And at some point, obviously, you're doing this because you're becoming more efficient on converting. Is there a way to size what the negative is initially from a P&L standpoint and what the positive is on the flip side once it's up and running. And then my second question is, aside from the ongoing 20% that will go to you on any cash outflows from the European operations, is there anything else in terms of economic interest you gain or any other things we need to be mindful of that could be a negative for you in terms of the deal on Europe. So aside from the 20 percent, what else do we need to be careful of on the economics there? Thank you. Yeah. George, it's Don. Good morning. So to your first question around the additional cost, I'll go back to what I was describing to Mike earlier. So in 2026, we estimated our incremental converting cost outsource converting costs due to the eastover change to be about 20 million that's about the same that'll occur in 27. um so that's why that what we originally thought was a one time would not go away so incremental converting in 27 approximately 20 million dollars to continue and then the rest is is capital that john described TO BE CLEAR WITH THAT, GEORGE, IT WILL GO AWAY WHEN THE NEW SHEETER IS UP AND RUNNING. THAT'S THE SIZE OF THE PRICE FOR INSTALLING THE NEW SHEETER, EXITING. YEAH, AND WE SEE THAT THIS PROJECT COLLECTIVELY, EVERYTHING WE'LL SPEND ON IT, EVEN INCLUDING THE INCREMENTAL 25, WILL HAVE ABOVE A 30% RETURN. And then to your second question around the 20% economic interest. So just to be clear, we have no equity ownership. We have no, you know, voting position. So the equity, the 20%, interest on any cash distributions, but it also would be, you now, if the company does any type of joint venture or something, then we'll get appropriate position, you know, economic interest in the joint venture. Also, any future sales, we would get 20% of the proceeds from that. So that's what the 20% means. It is also indefinite, so it's part of the deal. But you don't have a cash call as well. So if they need capital for whatever reason, they don't come knocking on Sylvana's door and say, hey, we need 20% of it or something like that. Would that be fair? That's correct. Okay. Thank you. It can't be diluted as well, the 20% position. Thank you, John. your next question comes from matthew mckellar with rbc capital markets please go ahead hi good morning thanks for taking my questions just wanted to follow up on on that last one and uh and i guess confirm my understanding as well around what i heard um are there any meaningful constraints placed on the buyer and how they run the assets as part of the transaction maybe specifically do they have the option to close those thank you yes there's no restrictions from our perspective no they will be fully in control of the operations of the business once it does get approved and we do close on it and I guess the short answer is no restrictions Okay. And then as a follow-up, are you reasonably confident that the buyer and his partner are well positioned to fund any mill site liabilities that may have to be resolved in the future and that your liabilities around those mills would be completely severed by the transaction? Yes, we are really confident. Well, we ran a competitive process. It was actually a lot of interest. You know, these assets that we have, the teams that are there, the brands that we have are very good. And, you know, I think that this, we made a selection with Midas because of their track record, because of their financial backing. But we also had other, also very attractive potential buyers as well to make a choice with that it was a difficult choice because they they all had their their strengths and we believe that Midas does have the financial backing and also the know-how and then we're with all to be able to be very successful long term with our European business okay thank you and if I could just sneak one more in Again, regarding Section 338 tariffs, the recent scope revisions, could you maybe just confirm the approximate share of volumes you'd expect to be affected by tariffs at this point as it relates to the industry in North America? And if you speak to any opportunities for Svamo that you might be seeing following that announcement. Thank you. Yeah, so the U.S. did impose another HCS code on 338, which impacted about 82,000 tons of cut size that was imported in 2025 from Canada, so we're thinking that's about the same volume. You know, if you look at that volume, it is, let's say, somewhat immaterial to the overall So, we don't see a lot of impact, and it's also not clear as to what options the supplier of those tons may have in terms of converting those into rolls or to other, you know, offset business and supplying that cut size domestically. domestically. So we don't see much of impact on the recent addition of this HDS code to the 338 Terra map. Thanks very much. I'll turn it back. Please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. Should you have further questions, you are welcome to re-enter the queue. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 to raise your hand. To withdraw your question, press star 1 again. Your next question comes from Daniel Harriman with Sidoti & Co. Please go ahead. Hey, guys. Good morning. Thanks so much for taking my questions. Just two quick ones for me today. The first is on working capital. Our expectation from August was that the bill would mostly unwind by year end 26, with the 50,000 tons in North America coming down in the second half. It looks like in the third quarter, it consumed about $42 million in working capital. So I'm curious how much now comes out in the fourth quarter versus next year. And then just regarding the $6 to $7 million a quarter in costs that were previously allocated to Europe, do you think any of that is addressable once the transaction closes? And if so, over what time frame? Thanks a lot. Hi. Good morning, Daniel. It's Don. So on your first question on working capital, I expect that we'll be close to our plan in the fourth quarter. Most of that working capital was an inventory build in North America, which was related to getting us through the Eastover outage. And with the sales plan we have, we'll Be close to that target by the end of December. And then for the $6 to $7 million quarterly cost that was previously allocated to the Europe business. If you step back, over time, we've gone through changes with Solamo. We've looked at what our appropriate cost structure is from an overhead standpoint. We'll do the same thing here. We'll look at what's the right blend of resources that we need to execute our strategy. and and so i think you can expect um cost will come down over time as we allocate we've got the right resources aligned at the our you know new america's business if you call it that that's helpful and daniel from uh timing expectation i mean that will start you know probably as soon as we um we're able to complete the deal once we get through that process Your next question comes from George Staphos with Bank of America. Please go ahead. George Stathos, Bank of American Banking, Hi, everyone. Two questions. First, can you talk to what you think shipments and consumption might look like in North America in 2027 based on your views, what your customers are saying, market forecasts, whatever you want to throw into the pot. And then secondly, on the, I think you said $6 million of unfavorable costs with inputs and transportation, if you can affirm or correct that, how do you ultimately, whatever the number is, expect to offset that over time? That can be purely on surcharges and the like, or do you have other mechanisms? Thank you. Yeah, George, to your first question on shipments, we expect North America, our North America business, to be relatively flat from volume this year to next year. I think the industry in which, I think, the industry this year is closer to minus 2%. And then on your second question, the input cost, we expect the fourth quarter to see also from the third to the fourth about the same, I think we said $6 million of negative. And a lot of that is fuel related, oil related, diesel related, and it impacts things like chemicals, distribution costs, things I referenced earlier. So what do we do about it? There's no one answer. And really, the teams are looking at every lever we have. So think about starting from revenue. What are we doing? Surcharges is an element. It's difficult to do. You can't do it in all regions. But that is a lever that we've pulled and we're moving. teams also looking at you know the mix geographic mix and customer mix how do we improve that and then further price as we can push it later into earlier into next year and then in the cost side it's a it's lot of things as well there's teams looking at distribution cost and how do we get the best mode and reduce our exposure to to the higher freight cost the spot freight if you will. Fiber, energy, chemicals, same thing. How do we reduce those things and reduce consumption or even how we buy? And then on the productivity side, our lean initiative is gaining momentum. It's a long, long process to build those capabilities, but we're seeing some early indications of success. We've identified approximately 15 million of annualized uh benefit in some specific projects we've got a lot of people engaged in it and so i think the answer is it's not one lever it's many levers and it's across the spectrum of revenue distribution manufacturing costs and productivity okay thanks i'll turn over i'll be back Your next question comes from Mike Roxland with Truist Securities. Please go ahead. Thanks. Just one quick follow-up. I'm just wondering if you guys have any update on the poison pill, which I believe expires sometime next week. Yes, we do have an update on that. Right now, as you said, the Shielder Rights Plan plan that the board adopted last November does expire this Monday, November 9th, and our board has decided to let this plan expire, and so it will not be renewed. Thank you. Your next question comes from George Staffos with Bank of America. Please go ahead. Thank you. Hey, Don, just following up on the earlier question I had on input costs and the like. So you said $6 million was the increase, and then there was another $6 million fourth quarter versus third quarter. So is that a consistent year-on-year $6 million you've got to manage against? Or what you're saying is costs have now moved up $12 million because it's six plus six. How would you have us think about that? And I had a quick follow-on yeah george so first i you're right it is incrementally six more in the fourth quarter and we are expecting that we carry uh that cost into that annualized cost into 2027 at this point in time you know of course we'll have things that we'll do to mitigate it as much as we can Annually, George, from perspective in 2026 versus 2027 costs are approximately $50 million and that's distribution is most of that and the other things, chemicals, energy, things like that, over 2025. Okay, thank you for that. Other question, I know you've got a lot going on right now. It's not going to happen next month. But there had been some thought, I think, maybe I was mistaken, that when you had the right window, you'd have an opportunity to do an investor session, kind of a capital market, say something like that. Do you have any thought in terms of when that might occur, if that's a correct assessment? That's right, George. As actually in my letter, I said we would have one, but then when we started thinking about Europe and what we're going to do with Europe, and then we got into the process, we pushed that off because we didn't want to be going in front of investors saying one thing and actually working on something else. So we have pushed that off and we'll probably be uh be looking at that uh probably now sometime next year sure like you think maybe second quarter would that be fair or too hard to call at this juncture too hard the call at the juncture um it it certainly won't be in the first quarter but uh yeah it could be sometimes second third quarter yeah we understand All right. Thank you very much. Good luck in the quarter. Thank you. We have reached the end of the Q&A session. I will now turn the call back to Hans Bjorkman for closing remarks. Thanks, Rebecca. I'm just going to let John give a couple closing thoughts to wrap up, and then we'll let you guys go into the rest of your day. So I just want to reiterate, you know, the proposed sale of our European business will make Salamu a more focused company concentrated in North America and Latin America. Where we see the greatest opportunities to create value. Our flagship growth strategy and discipline capital allocation principles are unchanged. We're currently executing our most significant investment at our East River Mill that will drive a lot of value in the years to come and that is progressing well. We're very pleased with what we're seeing so far. We'll continue to invest in low-risk, high-return projects and MQA-free sheet and maintain a strong balance sheet and return cash to share owners. We're focused on long-term value creation, our confident ability to generate strong EBITDA and free cash flow through the cycle. And as we complete this transition of our footprint, we're going to share more about the long- term potential of the strongest Alamo at the appropriate time. Thank you for joining this call. Thank you for participating in Silvamo's second quarter 2026 earnings call. You may now disconnect.