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The AI Chip Race with Apple’s Former Chief Chip Architect | Power On with Mark Gurman

Mark Gurman, Gerard Williams III, Alexis

Interview, Fireside Chat
  • NuvaCore Launch and Mission

    • Gerard Williams III founded NuvaCore in early April 2024 to leverage the AI data center boom with a focus on high-performance CPUs.
    • The company employs a "core first" philosophy, building clean-sheet CPU designs from first principles to ensure scalability and fundamental architectural soundness.
    • NuvaCore designs are architecture-agnostic regarding Instruction Set Architectures (ISAs), intending to target x86, ARM, or RISC-V upon final optimization.
    • The initial product roadmap targets a 2-to-3-year development cycle to reach full silicon production, though early modeling phases have been compressed to 2–3 months using AI tools.
    • Long-term strategic goals include delivering chiplet-form silicon co-integrated with accelerators or full-scale blade-based data center compute devices.
  • Impact of AI on Silicon Development

    • NuvaCore reports that AI tools have collapsed the "performance phase" of CPU design from a typical 7–12 month window down to 2–3 months.
    • Williams projects that AI could compress the entire clean-sheet-to-endpoint design timeline from 2.5–3 years down to approximately 1.5–2 years.
    • The company views AI models not as replacements for engineers, but as extensions of the design team that raise performance bars and force continuous learning.
    • NuvaCore is using AI to accelerate verification, physical design, and security hardening processes during the chip development lifecycle.
  • Strategic Positioning vs. Industry Trends

    • While the industry heavily favors GPU-centric AI infrastructure, Williams argues that high-performance CPUs are essential for orchestrating memory, security, and fundamental LLM workloads.
    • NuvaCore aims to prove that power efficiency (milliwatts per core) remains a critical metric in data centers, where scaling millions of cores amplifies even minor efficiency gains.
    • The company plans to integrate with various end customers to determine whether a CPU-centric approach or a full SoC approach best fits specific cloud and hyperscaler needs.
  • Apple Tenure and Leadership Insights

    • Williams joined Apple in February 2010 as a Platform Architecture engineer and served as the Chief Architect for CPU development.
    • His tenure spanned the design and execution of the A7 (Apple's first 64-bit chip) through the M1 series.
    • He departed Apple in February 2019 to pursue the entrepreneurial challenges of founding Nuvia, noting the difficulty of leaving a company where he had invested years of product development.
    • Williams declined to detail the origin of Apple's Neural Engine, citing confidentiality, but confirmed Apple's early focus on accelerators.
    • Regarding leadership, Williams expressed support for current Apple CEO John Ternus and former VP Johnny Srouji, noting their engineering strengths and the respect he holds for their teams.
  • Nuvia, Qualcomm, and Litigation

    • Williams founded Nuvia to build cloud silicon, which was acquired by Qualcomm, where he served as a Senior VP.
    • Following his departure from Qualcomm in late January 2024, he cited personal reasons (painting his home) for the timing of the transition.
    • Apple sued Nuvia over allegations of trade secret theft and inappropriate hiring; the courts largely dismissed Apple's claims as frivolous, allowing Nuvia to launch successfully at Qualcomm.
    • Williams noted that investors backing NuvaCore are strategic silicon players who understand the long-term nature of the endeavor.
  • Future Hardware and AI Adoption

    • Williams anticipates that over the next 3–5 years, AI and CPU advancements will enable everyday users to interact with large language models via ordinary devices like AR glasses and smartphones.
    • He envisions a future where AI augments daily workflows rather than replacing human capability, allowing users to perform research and tasks previously requiring external resources.
  • Apple Trivia Answers

    • Pro Chips: Exactly four Apple A-series chips have carried the "Pro" designation as of the recording: A17 Pro, A18 Pro, A19 Pro, and A20 Pro.
    • Launch Year: The "Pro" branding for A-series chips began in 2023 with the A17 Pro.
    • Favorite Colors: Mark Gurman identified the "Midnight Green" (iPhone 11 Pro) and "Pacific Blue" (iPhone 12 Pro) as historical favorites, and currently prefers "Night Sky" (iPhone 16 Pro).
    • Tim Cook's Choice: Tim Cook previously stated his preference for the "Natural Titanium" color of the iPhone 15 Pro Max.