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Clear all filters- 80,000 Hours2h 19m
#34 - We use the worst voting system that exists. Here's how Aaron Hamlin is going to fix it.
Aaron Hamlin, Edwin Edwards, David Duke, Buddy Roemer, Keiran Harris, Rob Wiblin
The Center for Election Science leverages a $600,000 Open Philanthropy grant to advance voting reform by advocating for Approval Voting as a superior alternative to the flawed First-Past-The-Post system. By targeting municipal ballot initiatives in cities like Fargo and San Francisco, the organization aims to break the two-party duopoly and elect moderate consensus candidates without the complexities of Instant Runoff Voting. This grassroots strategy seeks to scale successful local implementations into state and federal adoption, ultimately reducing political polarization and increasing voter efficacy through a robust, transparent electoral mechanism.
- 80,000 Hours2h 26m
#32 - Bryan Caplan on whether his Case Against Education holds up, totalitarianism, & open borders
Bryan Caplan, Keiran Harris, Rob Wiblin
Econometrician Tyler Cowen's analysis of *The Case Against Education* argues that formal schooling primarily functions as a signaling mechanism for conformity rather than a generator of human capital, leading to a societal misallocation of resources toward credential inflation. This framework extends to global policy, where Cowen contends that open borders and deregulated housing offer superior welfare gains compared to current systems, while highlighting the existential risks of permanent totalitarianism if technological advancements eliminate competitive checks on power. Drawing from these premises, he advises individuals to prioritize vocational over academic pathways unless a degree is strictly necessary for entry, and suggests that effective altruism should focus on immigration reform and the release of non-violent offenders to maximize moral impact.
- 80,000 Hours2h 2m
#30 - Dr Eva Vivalt on how little social science findings generalize from one study to another
Dr Eva Vivalt, Keiran Harris, Rob Wiblin
Y Combinator launched a $100 million, three-to-five-year randomized controlled trial providing $1,000 monthly to approximately 1,000 low-income young adults to analyze shifts in time use, health, and well-being while deliberately withholding results until the study's conclusion to prevent narrative distortion. This initiative is situated within a broader academic discourse highlighting the limited generalizability of development interventions and the prevalence of optimism bias among policymakers, who often neglect variance and negative results in favor of optimistic point estimates. Experts argue that despite these methodological challenges and academic incentives prioritizing novelty over synthesis, aggregated expert priors and robust RCTs remain essential for refining evidence-based policy and overcoming the "naturalistic heuristic" in emerging fields like clean meat adoption.
- 80,000 Hours1h 45m
#26 - Marie Gibbons on how exactly clean meat is made & whats needed to get it in every supermarket
Marie Gibbons, Natalie Cargill, Keiran Harris, Rob Wiblin
Marie Gibbons predicts that cell-based meat will reach the consumer market by year-end at a premium price, with production costs expected to achieve parity with conventional meat within a decade through improved bioreactor scaling and media optimization. The technology relies on harvesting satellite cells via humane biopsy and utilizing plant-based scaffolds to create initial burger formats, while future whole-cut developments depend on overcoming growth factor dependencies through recombinant proteins or genetic editing. Gibbons emphasizes that accelerating this transition requires coordinated industry efforts across major research hubs in Boston and London to prioritize species-specific biological protocols and reduce animal suffering more effectively than advocacy alone.
- 80,000 Hours2h 40m
#25 - Prof Robin Hanson on why we have to lie to ourselves about why we do what we do
Robin Hanson, Kevin Simler, Keiran Harris, Rob Wiblin
Robin Hanson and Kevin Simler propose in *The Elephant in the Brain* that human institutions like education, medicine, and charity function primarily as signals of status and virtue rather than fulfilling their stated goals. By exposing how self-deception and hidden motives sustain these systems, the authors argue that effective reform requires designing policies that allow individuals to maintain their high-minded self-image while actually achieving better real-world outcomes. This perspective challenges conventional wisdom across sociology and futurology, urging a shift from abstract idealism to pragmatic strategies aligned with true human incentives.
- 80,000 Hours2h 36m
#21 - Holden Karnofsky on times philanthropy transformed the world & Open Phil’s plan to do the same
Holden Karnofsky, Margaret Sanger, Gregory Pincus, Katherine McCormick, Keiran Harris, Rob Wiblin
The Open Philanthropy Project, funded primarily by Good Ventures, operates on a venture-capital model to deploy over $100 million annually toward high-risk, high-impact causes including U.S. criminal justice reform, farm animal welfare, and artificial intelligence safety. The organization employs a distinct "50-40-10" grant approval framework and prioritizes field building to create expert communities in neglected areas like AI alignment and pandemic preparedness. Through strategic board engagement at institutions like OpenAI and a rigorous, truth-seeking hiring culture, the project aims to mitigate global catastrophic risks while maximizing philanthropic returns on long-term societal transformation.
- 80,000 Hours1h 46m
#12 - Dr Cameron works to stop you dying in a pandemic. Here’s what keeps her up at night.
Dr Cameron, Dr Beth Cameron, Keiran Harris, Rob Wiblin, Dr. Elizabeth Cameron
The Nuclear Threat Initiative, led by CEO Secretary Ernest Moniz, is launching the Next Generation Global Health Security Network to engage emerging leaders ahead of the Kampala Ministerial and advance its pilot Global Health Security Index. The organization addresses rising biological risks from dual-use technologies and funding gaps by advocating for integrated public health and national security strategies, including a proposed global preparedness fund and improved governance frameworks. Through these initiatives, NTI aims to dismantle the "cycle of panic and neglect" by fostering interdisciplinary collaboration and establishing permanent metrics for global pandemic prevention and response.
- 80,000 Hours1h 52m
#10 - Dr Nick Beckstead on how to spend billions of dollars preventing human extinction
Dr Nick Beckstead, Keiran Harris, Rob Wiblin
Nick Beckstead, a researcher at the Open Philanthropy Project, advocates for prioritizing far-future utility by directing substantial grants toward existential risks like artificial intelligence and biosecurity. His approach relies on a philosophical framework that rejects time discounting and population ethics constraints to justify focusing on narrow, high-impact interventions such as Target Malaria and AI alignment rather than broad economic growth. Beckstead further urges effective altruists to transition into specialized full-time roles within these priority sectors to maximize their leverage against global catastrophic threats.
- 80,000 Hours1h 45m
#9 - Christine Peterson on how insecure computers could lead to global disaster, and how to fix it
Christine Peterson, Keiran Harris, Robert Wiblin
Christine Peterson, co-founder of the Foresight Institute, draws parallels between the evolving effective altruism movement and 1980s space settlement communities to advocate for prioritizing long-term, high-leverage existential risks over immediate, easily measurable causes. She highlights accelerating artificial intelligence timelines and software security vulnerabilities as critical threats requiring a global shift toward defensive technologies and fundamentally secure system design within a decade. Peterson further outlines a strategic framework for the movement that combines repair-focused longevity research with personal sustainability practices, urging practitioners to pursue careers in computer and physical sciences while establishing nimble nonprofit organizations to maximize civilization-scale impact.
- 80,000 Hours3h 17m
#8 - Lewis Bollard on how to end factory farming in our lifetimes
Lewis Bollard, Keiran Harris, Robert Wiblin
Open Philanthropy prioritizes farm animal welfare by targeting the massive scale of suffering among billions of chickens, land mammals, and fish through corporate campaigns, undercover investigations, and food technology grants. The organization deprioritized individual dietary advocacy and US legal battles due to low efficacy, instead focusing resources on neglected geographic regions like China and India and addressing the severe talent shortage in clean meat science. With global funding doubling to $50 million, the current strategic shift aims to resolve a talent gap while expanding into understudied areas such as fish, insect, and wild animal welfare.
- 80,000 Hours2h 14m
#6 - Dr Toby Ord on why the long-term future matters more than anything else & what to do about it
Dr Toby Ord, Keiran Harris, Rob Wiblin
The presentation argues that the 21st century represents a pivotal era where humanity faces a roughly one-in-six probability of extinction from anthropogenic threats like artificial intelligence, synthetic biology, and nuclear conflict. It posits that this existential risk is uniquely high because current technological power has outpaced civilizational wisdom, necessitating immediate global coordination and targeted interventions to preserve the potential value of a multi-million year future. By reframing long-term survival as a moral imperative, the argument advocates for specific career paths and institutional reforms that prioritize managing these catastrophic risks over short-term gains.
- 80,000 Hours1h 38m
#3 - Dr Dario Amodei on OpenAI and how AI will change the world for good and ill
Dr Dario Amodei, Elon Musk, Sam Altman, Keiran Harris, Robert Wiblin
Founded by Elon Musk and Sam Altman, the nonprofit OpenAI employs approximately 55 researchers dedicated to ensuring Artificial General Intelligence benefits humanity through rigorous safety protocols and deep reinforcement learning. In the field's inaugural "Concrete Problems in AI Safety" paper, Amidey and colleagues identified actionable short-term risks such as reward hacking and adversarial examples, subsequently developing scalable supervision methods that allow agents to learn complex behaviors via human preferences rather than fixed reward functions. The organization advocates for high-impact technical careers focused on alignment and strategic coordination among major labs to prevent catastrophic outcomes while navigating geopolitical uncertainties in the race toward AGI.
- 80,000 Hours2h 17m
#27 - Dr Tom Inglesby on careers and policies that reduce global catastrophic biological risks
Dr Tom Inglesby, Keiran Harris, Rob Wiblin
Dr. Thomas Inglesby of the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security advocates for integrating catastrophic biological risk planning into existing public health and biosecurity frameworks rather than treating them as separate, siloed endeavors. He emphasizes that while natural pandemics currently pose the highest probability of threat, the rising accessibility of biotechnology necessitates a unified US Biodefense Strategy and sustained funding for initiatives like the Global Health Security Agenda to address both accidental and deliberate misuse. By promoting interdisciplinary training through programs like the Emerging Leaders Fellowship and urging legislative support for dedicated emergency response funds, Inglesby seeks to shift the system from reactive crisis management to proactive, resilient infrastructure.
- 80,000 Hours1h 45m
#26 - Marie Gibbons on how exactly clean meat is made & the advances needed to get it in every store
Marie Gibbons, Natalie Cargill, Keiran Harris, Rob Wiblin
In this 80,000 Hours episode, host Natalie Cargill interviews Marie Gibbons, a GFI research fellow and physiologist who transitioned from veterinary medicine to champion cellular agriculture as the most viable path for global animal protection. Gibbons details the technical progression from harvesting satellite cells to scaling production using suspension bioreactors and plant-based scaffolds, while noting that cost reductions will likely drive market entry within the current year. Although the field faces logistical hurdles regarding media costs and regulatory approval, the discussion emphasizes a strategic industry shift toward specialization and collaboration to achieve cost parity with conventional meat within a decade.