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  1. All-In Podcast1h 2m

    Senator Ron Johnson on the Senate showdown over Trump's Big Beautiful Bill | All-In Interview

    Ron Johnson, Trump, Friedberg, Chamath, Jason

    Senator Mike Johnson warns that projecting federal spending to reach $7.3 trillion annually could swell the national debt to $63 trillion by 2035, a trajectory he argues the current House reconciliation bill fails to address. While acknowledging the limitations of budget reconciliation, he vows to vote against the legislation unless it commits to returning spending to pre-pandemic levels and codifies efficiency findings through rescission rather than broad political packages. Joined by allies like Senators Rand Paul and Mike Lee, Johnson insists that without immediate corrective measures to curb interest costs and discretionary spending, the United States risks a debt spiral that would fundamentally erode the conservative movement and the economy.