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  1. 80,000 Hours2h 14m

    How to avoid catastrophic nuclear blunders | Joan Rohlfing (2022)

    Joan Rohlfing, Rob Woodland

    In October 2021, expert Joan Rolfing presented "Beyond the Precipice," arguing that global nuclear risk has reached unprecedented levels due to the inherent fragility of the Cold War-era deterrence strategy and escalating cyber vulnerabilities. Following the Russian invasion of Ukraine in early 2022, Rolfing further detailed how the collapse of arms control treaties and the concentration of launch authority have doubled the probability of catastrophic nuclear use. She advocates for a fundamental paradigm shift toward fail-safe systems, the integration of advanced verification technologies, and significant philanthropic investment to replace the current trillion-dollar modernization trajectory with sustainable risk reduction measures.

  2. 80,000 Hours2h 47m

    The case that war isn't in decline | Bear Braumoeller (2022)

    Bear Braumoeller, Rob Wiblin

    Bear B. Moller's analysis of interstate conflict from 1815 to the present challenges the prevailing "decline of war" thesis by demonstrating that only the post-1989 Cold War era saw a significant reduction in conflict initiation, while long-term trends in lethality and escalatory propensity have remained stagnant. The study attributes fluctuations in war frequency not to Enlightenment values or democratic peace theories, but to the specific structure of international orders, noting that the current clash between the liberal order and emerging powers like Russia and China has eliminated diplomatic buffers. Consequently, Moller argues that the primary contemporary risk lies in the catastrophic potential for escalation rather than the probability of conflict onset, urging that effective policy requires deep expertise in international relations to navigate these volatile structural shifts.

  3. 80,000 Hours1h 1m

    Marcus Davis on founding and leading Rethink Priorities

    Marcus Davis, Rob Wiblin, Kieran Harris

    Rethink Priorities has rapidly expanded from ten to over fifty staff members, operating as a fully remote research entity that splits leadership between Peter Waterford and co-CEO Marcus Davis to manage long-termism alongside animal welfare and global health initiatives. The organization now executes a high-volume consultancy portfolio for major funders like Open Philanthropy, generating documented impacts such as influencing millions in farm animal funding and launching new charities while addressing critical data gaps in wild welfare. To sustain this trajectory and fund upcoming inquiries into interspecies moral weight, RP seeks an additional $3 million in annual support to scale its survey teams and avoid rejecting commissioned work.

  4. 80,000 Hours3h 46m

    Why global catastrophes probably won't kill us all | Luisa Rodriguez (2021)

    Luisa Rodriguez, Rob Wiblin

    Luisa Rodriguez's research challenges the prevailing assumption that catastrophic events killing 50% to 99.99% of humanity would lead to permanent extinction, arguing instead that historical precedents and resource constraints make recovery probable. The study identifies that factors such as geographic survival pockets, pre-existing stockpiles, and the inherent resilience of infrastructure allow civilizations to overcome direct or indirect collapse pathways like nuclear war or pandemics. Consequently, Rodriguez suggests that while preventing immediate mass loss remains a moral imperative, long-term cause prioritization should focus on risks guaranteeing true extinction rather than temporary civilization setbacks.

  5. 80,000 Hours3h 21m

    Dismantling the myth that we can't do anything to help wild animals | Cameron Meyer Shorb

    Cameron Meyer Shorb, Luisa Rodriguez

    The Wild Animal Initiative is establishing the field of wild animal welfare science to address the massive scale of suffering caused by predation, disease, and environmental factors affecting billions of sentient beings. Through interdisciplinary research, the organization develops and tests tractable interventions such as selective reforestation, contraception, and vaccination while rigorously assessing ecological risks like trophic cascades. By standardizing welfare measurement and training the next generation of experts, the initiative aims to institutionalize ethical considerations of wild animals within legal and scientific frameworks to prevent net negative lives in natural ecosystems.

  6. 80,000 Hours1h 24m

    OpenAI's unparalleled gambit to ditch its nonprofit | UCLA legal expert Rose Chan Loui

    Rose Chan Loui, Rob Wiblin, Sam Altman, Elon Musk

    OpenAI intends to permanently dissolve its non-profit parent structure to form a standalone Delaware Public Benefit Corporation, a shift requiring $6.6 billion in new investor funding contingent on restructuring within two years. This transition sparks intense legal scrutiny from California and Delaware officials regarding the fair valuation of the non-profit's stake, which is estimated between $37 billion and $80 billion, to ensure the organization receives adequate cash and equity for its safety missions. While CEO Sam Altman and investors seek to remove the 100x return cap and secure broader profit rights, the non-profit board must navigate severe conflicts of interest to secure a settlement that preserves its ability to fund AI safety research.

  7. 80,000 Hours2h 32m

    Trying to end poverty through well-founded charter cities | Mark Lutter & Tamara Winter (2019)

    Mark Lutter, Tamara Winter, Rob Wiblin

    The Center for Innovative Governance Research advocates for "charter cities," distinct jurisdictions with reformed commercial laws designed to lift millions out of poverty by bypassing entrenched political barriers in middle-income nations like Zambia and Honduras. By establishing greenfield sites financed through land value appreciation, the initiative seeks to foster diverse economic growth and alter long-term host country trajectories without relying on traditional aid or foreign administration. With a current focus on incubating projects across Africa and Latin America, the organization aims to prove that institutional innovation is a superior lever for poverty reduction than conventional development strategies.

  8. 80,000 Hours2h 22m

    How TV shows, movies, and novels can improve the world | Elizabeth Cox

    Elizabeth Cox, Keiran Harris, Luisa

    Elizabeth Cox and Kieran Harris discuss how narrative storytelling serves as a primary mechanism for shifting public discourse on complex topics, citing empirical evidence that repeated exposure to fictional scenarios normalizes sensitive subjects like AI ethics and climate change. This dialogue explores Cox's upcoming animated series "Ada," which utilizes a dual visual style to help audiences grapple with speculative technologies through ethical inquiry rather than didactic instruction. The conversation further examines the strategic trade-offs of independent production, the potential limitations of artificial intelligence in creative writing, and the importance of universal emotional truths in achieving meaningful cultural impact.

  9. 80,000 Hours2h 33m

    Big wins against factory farming & how they happened | Lewis Bollard (2021)

    Lewis Bollard, Rob Wiblin

    Since 2017, the plant-based meat sector has accelerated with a 16–18% annual growth rate and major corporate adoption by firms like Tyson and Impossible Foods, though price parity with commodity chicken remains an unresolved barrier. Concurrently, advocacy groups have secured over 1,200 animal welfare policies and shifted the industry toward cage-free systems, while global governments in regions including Singapore, China, and the EU have invested hundreds of millions to support technological innovation and regulatory frameworks. Despite significant funding for for-profit alternatives, the movement faces a strategic resource gap as non-profit advocates call for professionalization and diversified approaches combining technology, moral suasion, and policy reform to sustain long-term impact.

  10. 80,000 Hours20 min

    Highlights: The predictive brain & how to study consciousness | Anil Seth

    Anil Seth, Luisa

    Anil Seth proposes that conscious experience functions as a "controlled hallucination" where the brain prioritizes top-down predictions over raw sensory data to maintain physiological homeostasis and survival. This framework explains how emotions arise from internal regulatory states, how psychedelics disrupt predictive inference to create uncontrolled hallucinations, and why consciousness depends on dynamic neural network interactions rather than specific brain regions or neuron counts. To validate these theories, researchers employ experimental paradigms like binocular rivalry and no-report protocols while acknowledging persistent challenges in distinguishing conscious experience from the cognitive capacity for reporting.

  11. 80,000 Hours2h 59m

    Sarah Eustis-Guthrie on why she shut down her charity, & why more founders should follow her lead

    Sarah Eustis-Guthrie, Luisa Rodriguez

    Founded by Sarah Eustace Guthrie and Ben Williamson, the Maternal Health Initiative shut down in January 2024 after an 18-month pilot in Ghana failed to reduce pregnancy rates due to unforeseen cultural norms regarding postpartum abstinence and breastfeeding. The organization concluded that continuing the program would misallocate funds from more effective causes, a decision driven by findings that increased contraceptive counseling yielded no marginal benefit when women were already protected by natural methods. This operational pivot highlights systemic challenges in philanthropy, where donor priorities and expert deference often overshadow on-the-ground evidence and local realities.

  12. 80,000 Hours1h 28m

    Reducing the cruelty of the US criminal legal system | James Forman Jr. (2020)

    James Forman Jr., Rob Wibland

    Drawing on over 250 years of systemic racism and modern structural failures, this event details how the U.S. criminal justice system disproportionately targets Black communities through historical legacies of slavery and contemporary misallocation of police resources. The presentation outlines specific policy solutions including redirecting funds to social services, reforming union contracts to ensure accountability, and shifting from punitive sentencing to restorative justice models. Following the George Floyd protests, the discussion highlights ongoing political challenges and urges civic leaders and citizens to demand concrete local reforms to reduce incarceration and dismantle the current policing framework.

  13. 80,000 Hours1h 36m

    Parenting insights from Rob and 8 past guests

    Luisa Rodriguez, Rob Wiblin, Ezra Klein, Holden Karnofsky, Emily Oster, Russ Roberts, Spencer Greenberg, Elie Hassenfeld, Bryan Caplan, Nita Farahany

    Holden Karnofsky discusses his surprising positive experience with early parenthood, noting stable sleep and increased well-being despite prevailing societal narratives of decline. The conversation integrates expert advice from figures like Emily Oster and Ezra Klein regarding the trade-offs between career demands and childcare, emphasizing that foundational stability outweighs specific parenting choices. Key themes include the methodological flaws in measuring parental regret, the biological realities of gamete quality, and practical strategies for balancing work, identity shifts, and child safety.

  14. 80,000 Hours1h 26m

    Our very long-term future & other topics most politicians won’t touch | Andrew Yang (2021)

    Andrew Yang, Rob Wiblin

    Andrew Yang outlines a post-scarcity vision for humanity in 500 years, warning that climate change and authoritarianism driven by scarcity pose the greatest threats to this future. To mitigate long-term existential risks and structural political failures, he advocates for institutional reforms such as ranked-choice voting, term limits, and an AI Value Added Tax to fund universal basic income. Through his organization Humanity Forward, Yang promotes a strategic "utopian" political approach that combines preventative science funding, foreign aid expansion, and democratic innovations to bridge the divide between short-term incentives and multi-generational public good.

  15. 80,000 Hours2h 27m

    The 12 best ways to stop the next pandemic | Dr Cassidy Nelson (2020)

    Dr Cassidy Nelson, Rob Wiblin

    Dr. Cassidy Nelson of Oxford FHI outlines twelve urgent policy and career recommendations designed to shift global pandemic response from reactive measures to proactive, pathogen-agnostic strategies. The framework prioritizes investments in platform vaccine technologies, metagenomic diagnostics, and international data-sharing mechanisms while addressing critical gaps in laboratory transparency and biological supply chain resilience. These evidence-based interventions aim to overcome current systemic delays, prevent healthcare collapse, and establish centralized coordination to mitigate both natural outbreaks and high-consequence biological risks.